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TeXture Discussion
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It all depends on how big your pipes etc. are Alistiar - samll ones running along the walls are usually better as part of the texture since extra 'world' detail increases the load on the game engine significantly.
I found this earlier , and although I didn't read it before I did pipes in the past, it pretty much describes how I made the one in my image...
http://www.thinkdan.com/ in the texture section of the tutorials.
I found this earlier , and although I didn't read it before I did pipes in the past, it pretty much describes how I made the one in my image...
http://www.thinkdan.com/ in the texture section of the tutorials.
The pipe 'brackets' I just winged as I went, I think I had a slight gradient overlay from left to right to make them appear rounded and a bit more substancial.
Last couple of things I can think of for now:
The image is part of a larger one that was created for a GUI, the engine made it appear slightly lighter than it does...
Two things I wanted to illustrate - the cracks in the wall and getting shadows to make any detail look believable.
Last couple of things I can think of for now:
The image is part of a larger one that was created for a GUI, the engine made it appear slightly lighter than it does...
Two things I wanted to illustrate - the cracks in the wall and getting shadows to make any detail look believable.
Awesome contributions here ToXin! :}
I may not know anything at all about this topic, but I do appreciate the time and effort it takes to impart one's experience and knowledge!
Rick and Hanarky... I'm impressed! :} Your motivation, enthusiasm and resulting contributions are a real pleasure to behold! [excited]
I may not know anything at all about this topic, but I do appreciate the time and effort it takes to impart one's experience and knowledge!
Rick and Hanarky... I'm impressed! :} Your motivation, enthusiasm and resulting contributions are a real pleasure to behold! [excited]
Nice effort Hanarky, although I notice a couple of things that you may find helpful comments on -
The stripes around the edges and the underlying 'roughness' are excellent, but they don't match up - the 'roughness' looks a little odd between the sides and the top/bottom. Perhaps making a whole layer the same and then cutting a hole in it would be a simpe improvement.
The other thing is the centre 'checker-plate' - creating the rust effect by fading in a layer also fades your diamond pattern! How about using a layer mask on the rust and put it over the steel plate effect?
Now you've got me thinking about something else....
I did this a while ago while playing with the possibility of bump-mapping:
The stripes around the edges and the underlying 'roughness' are excellent, but they don't match up - the 'roughness' looks a little odd between the sides and the top/bottom. Perhaps making a whole layer the same and then cutting a hole in it would be a simpe improvement.
The other thing is the centre 'checker-plate' - creating the rust effect by fading in a layer also fades your diamond pattern! How about using a layer mask on the rust and put it over the steel plate effect?
Now you've got me thinking about something else....
I did this a while ago while playing with the possibility of bump-mapping:
The 'checker plate' effect is a greyscale heightmap that would then be rendered as a bump-map by the engine.
To create it I think I made a custom brush then played with the spacing to make a 'row' . Copied that layer and reversed it, then nudged it to half the width of a column, then made a custom pattern out of one 'cell' (the simplest, smallest square that would give a continuous cover when used as a pattern fill)
I think things have moved on now, I believe you can now 'paint with pattern' in PS7 [excited]
The power of custom brushes is fantastic as well for creating textures...
To create it I think I made a custom brush then played with the spacing to make a 'row' . Copied that layer and reversed it, then nudged it to half the width of a column, then made a custom pattern out of one 'cell' (the simplest, smallest square that would give a continuous cover when used as a pattern fill)
I think things have moved on now, I believe you can now 'paint with pattern' in PS7 [excited]
The power of custom brushes is fantastic as well for creating textures...
Thanks, Toxin, that's a GREAT link!
It took a bit of roaming through the Unreal Tutorials to find it, which is a good thing, in that by looking at them, I found all kinds of goodies in addition to the texturing tutorial...It's always a blast to find new sites with kewl tuts!
:}
It took a bit of roaming through the Unreal Tutorials to find it, which is a good thing, in that by looking at them, I found all kinds of goodies in addition to the texturing tutorial...It's always a blast to find new sites with kewl tuts!
:}Another one for those details, incidentally it also saves me from describing how I did my chain - another one that I'd thought of for myself that I later see described!
http://www.thewebmachine.com/ - photoshop section
nots, bolts, metal, rust etc.
I particularly like the 'Carbon navbar' effect [excited]
http://www.thewebmachine.com/ - photoshop section
nots, bolts, metal, rust etc.
I particularly like the 'Carbon navbar' effect [excited]
thank you Moth and Toxin for your comments, they are something I can continue to work with 
As for your proposal Moth, so I tried that out quickly and you are right, they look better, though now I have to make the rust a bit more accentuated. More of it later.
Toxin, your comments are very good too to see my mistakes, but I don't understand this one sentence:
"The stripes around the edges and the underlying 'roughness' are excellent, but they don't match up - the 'roughness' looks a little odd between the sides and the top/bottom. Perhaps making a whole layer the same and then cutting a hole in it would be a simpe improvement. "
If you don't mind, could you explain again, please. Do you refer to only the construction stripes or the whole pic. Initially the stripes were not made for this pic, I only made a frame for the metallplate out of them (actually it's 4 times the same) to post here. Below is a pic of the original stripe, maybe without all this other stuff I can better follow, what looks odd.
I had only a pic for pure making of the stripes without texturing them, so I started to play around. And therefore I take it as a compliment what you said about my texturizing tryings
Please be patient with me and for the lot of questions I have. But I really want to learn it. Once the thing with the stripes is clear to me, I will try to make it better, and the bumps and the rust and....lol
On another note, I am a big Quake fan, but mostly Q2 and I haven't seen any other game yet, that fascinated me so much in its old dark industrial atmosphere, created mostly from those textures. Hehe, so I eagerly followed this thread, though many things are still to difficult for me to understand.
Woops, long post, better I stop now.
Hanarky
As for your proposal Moth, so I tried that out quickly and you are right, they look better, though now I have to make the rust a bit more accentuated. More of it later.
Toxin, your comments are very good too to see my mistakes, but I don't understand this one sentence:
"The stripes around the edges and the underlying 'roughness' are excellent, but they don't match up - the 'roughness' looks a little odd between the sides and the top/bottom. Perhaps making a whole layer the same and then cutting a hole in it would be a simpe improvement. "
If you don't mind, could you explain again, please. Do you refer to only the construction stripes or the whole pic. Initially the stripes were not made for this pic, I only made a frame for the metallplate out of them (actually it's 4 times the same) to post here. Below is a pic of the original stripe, maybe without all this other stuff I can better follow, what looks odd.
I had only a pic for pure making of the stripes without texturing them, so I started to play around. And therefore I take it as a compliment what you said about my texturizing tryings
Please be patient with me and for the lot of questions I have. But I really want to learn it. Once the thing with the stripes is clear to me, I will try to make it better, and the bumps and the rust and....lol
On another note, I am a big Quake fan, but mostly Q2 and I haven't seen any other game yet, that fascinated me so much in its old dark industrial atmosphere, created mostly from those textures. Hehe, so I eagerly followed this thread, though many things are still to difficult for me to understand.
Woops, long post, better I stop now.
Hanarky
I have tried now to implement all hints.
The lowest layer is the metall plate, followed by the diamond-shape layer, both at normal blending.
Above that 3 layers, each with a layermask and there I painted with different brushes different colors of brown resp. green and with different opacities randomnly on each layer. Then I applied a bit bevel and emboss, since I like it, when the rust seems to make little holes in the metall instead of only lying on it.
Then I painted with different sized brushes and fuzzy edges and different shades of grey on the layermask to hide or reveal the rust more or less. Finally I played a bit with levels and set blending mode to soft light.
So, now I don't know, if this is professional, but in any course it looks much better than my previous pic, least I think so.
What do you think?
And sorry, that I turned this thread in something, that has nothing to do with Q3 ;\
Hanarky
The lowest layer is the metall plate, followed by the diamond-shape layer, both at normal blending.
Above that 3 layers, each with a layermask and there I painted with different brushes different colors of brown resp. green and with different opacities randomnly on each layer. Then I applied a bit bevel and emboss, since I like it, when the rust seems to make little holes in the metall instead of only lying on it.
Then I painted with different sized brushes and fuzzy edges and different shades of grey on the layermask to hide or reveal the rust more or less. Finally I played a bit with levels and set blending mode to soft light.
So, now I don't know, if this is professional, but in any course it looks much better than my previous pic, least I think so.
What do you think?
And sorry, that I turned this thread in something, that has nothing to do with Q3 ;\
Hanarky