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Manipulation help needed!


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Now it's final.

There might be some more minor adjustments to the subject, but this is acceptable. Great work.
 
IamSam said:
:perfect::thumbsup:

Now it's final.

There might be some more minor adjustments to the subject, but this is acceptable. Great work.
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Di you thought for a sec that you will say minor adjustments and i will forget about it and move on? Bring it on. Whats next? One little warning, you might just go crazy a bit like me. Dont say i didn't warn ya.
 
No..............sometimes you have to know when to stop!

However, it may just be me but there seems to be some difference in the subject from the second image from your post #6 and the final subject. Did you make any changes to the subject layer?
 
Great work! if you want to be extra picky i would add noise to the background and maybe remove the blue cast light on the subject or instead, add a little bit of that blue light on the railingon the railing.


Fast example adding noise and removing blue cast
less blur1f.jpg
 
I don't know..................adding the noise desaturates the colors of the background and lightens the darker tones. The richness is dampened. This almost brings us back to where we started.

I'm not sure about removing the colors in the jacket either.
 
Argos said:
Great work! if you want to be extra picky i would add noise to the background and maybe remove the blue cast light on the subject or instead, add a little bit of that blue light on the railingon the railing.


Fast example adding noise and removing blue cast
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Did i do this? I did not make this pic right? How did you remove the blue light from neck. How would you even put it on the railing of balcony. This is some next level stuff i was talking about sam.
 
In my opinion if the goal is realism on the montage you have to add the noise or remove the noise on the subject (i think it would lose to much sharpnes).

less blur1noise example.jpg less blur1noise example2.jpg

About the color cast it didn'tt bother me but again if the goal is realism or you removed it or you have to add to the railing on my opinion.
 
IamSam said:
No..............sometimes you have to know when to stop!

However, it may just be me but there seems to be some difference in the subject from the second image from your post #6 and the final subject. Did you make any changes to the subject layer?
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No mate, i did not change the subject. Its the same from post 6 2nd. After you said it suits i have saved it
 
Argos said:
In my opinion if the goal is realism on the montage you have to add the noise or remove the noise on the subject (i think it would lose to much sharpnes).

View attachment 98332 View attachment 98333

About the color cast it didn'tt bother me but again if the goal is realism or you removed it or you have to add to the railing on my opinion.
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Now that you have zoomed in, i can see what you are talking about. I cannot reduce the noise of sub. Looks non realastic the other way. Noise may lighten up the backround tho. As sam was saying.
 
Argos said:
In my opinion if the goal is realism on the montage you have to add the noise or remove the noise on the subject (i think it would lose to much sharpnes).
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This I agree with! But it would be best to remove it from the subject.
 
Hassan1122 said:
Now that you have zoomed in, i can see what you are talking about. I cannot reduce the noise of sub. Looks non realastic the other way. Noise may lighten up the backround tho. As sam was saying.
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But you can always darken again the background ^^
 
IamSam said:
This I agree with! But it would be best to remove it from the subject.
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it's possible, i didn't do it because i thought it would look worst and its always more destructive reducing noise than adding it (depending if you like noise or not of course XD ), but i can be wrong.
 
Argos said:
it's possible, i didn't do it because i thought it would look worst and its always more destructive reducing noise than adding it (depending if you like noise or not of course XD ), but i can be wrong.
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I like noise, yelling is what i do best. And now back to me. The subject. Feeling like a mutant, made in lab. Subject x. Anyways, if i have to reduce noise from sub. That means. I'll have to do it all over again. Thats a big pain in the ass.
 
Argos said:
but i could be wrong.
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There is no right or wrong............it just a matter of opinion.

I would try adding a Curves adjustment to the subject layer or dropping it over into Camera raw before I would add noise to the BG.
 
Argos said:
i added 2.8 if i remmeber correctly, it was a fast try so i didn't use it any good selection or converted to an intelligent object
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Okay I'll try to play with it a little. Tho how did you remove that blue light on from the subs neck. That was really good. If i have to edit i will do it too. And the coat stuff
 
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