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I gave up on this one because i neede better raw material, but i liked the idea, critique please?
 

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Actually the shadow would fall that way, as the nail is so large it would dwarf the side of big ben, but thanks for replying.
 
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Actually the shadow would fall that way, as the nail is so large it would dwarf the side of big ben, but thanks for replying.
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So you are saying the sun is shining on it from below to cast the shadow upward? The light source that is casting a shadow on your image is coming from the street on the left.

The nail has a shadow on the face yet the shadow is casting behind it.
 
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It is not the angle of the shadow, just the size IMO.
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The angle of the shadow determands the size and shape of the shadow. The shadows under the cars are very shallow because it appears the sun (light source) is almost strait above (midday). I challange anyone to find a day time photo of a building where a shadow on the building is above the horizon line of the object that's casting it.
 
Iam guessing the shot was taken around 5.05 pm so the sun will be lower aand emitting a nice soft golden light so the shadow is not to far off I think the real problem here is the perspective view of the nail is not that clear but I dont think the nail head should be lower than the shadow of the nail head. So I would lower the shadow as to me judging by the shade on the building to the left the sun is about a 10 oclock position so my theory is the shadow would be flat between 2 and 3 o clock angle and wider. the perspective of the shot makes it hard to really judge but big ben is a tall building So the sun probably would be about the height of the nail visually
If I was to finish this this would be my angles I would use.

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Iam guessing the shot was taken around 5.05 pm so the sun will be lower aand emitting a nice soft golden light so the shadow is not to far off I think the real problem here is the perspective view of the nail is not that clear but I dont think the nail head should be lower than the shadow of the nail head. So I would lower the shadow as to me judging by the shade on the building to the left the sun is about a 10 oclock position so my theory is the shadow would be flat between 2 and 3 o clock angle and wider. the perspective of the shot makes it hard to really judge but big ben is a tall building So the sun probably would be about the height of the nail visually
If I was to finish this this would be my angles I would use.

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That looks more like what a reflection would do not a shadow.
 
the angle of light is to low for the shadow to be below it. The sun obviously is not below the nail looking up at it so the shadow wouldnt be above it nor is the sun above it looking down at it so however you look at wether it be a shadow or a reflection, it has to be somewhere in between I just think the shadow cast would be higher than the nail point of inpact but not hitting the other face of big ben so you would only get a lower section of the nail casting an actual visible shadow.

Take the cars for example they have short shadows heading in the 2 - 3 o clock position big ben is not that much higher for it to act completely different the theory still applies. the lines I drew out were nkot to represent the shadow but a path.
 
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the angle of light is to low for the shadow to be below it. The sun obviously is not below the nail looking up at it so the shadow wouldnt be above it nor is the sun above it looking down at it so however you look at wether it be a shadow or a reflection, it has to be somewhere in between I just think the shadow cast would be higher than the nail point of inpact but not hitting the other face of big ben so you would only get a lower section of the nail casting an actual visible shadow.

Take the cars for example they have short shadows heading in the 2 - 3 o clock position big ben is not that much higher for it to act completely different the theory still applies. the lines I drew out were nkot to represent the shadow but a path.
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The cars are on a totally different plane than the vertical wall. How can it have the same shadow angle?
 
plane will not alter the direction the shadow is cast just the surface it is cast on as you pointed out in your first post so dont see why you are arguing the fact I am saying the same as you. I expressed my opinion on how I would see it which again is worthless as it is not going to be completed anyway.
 
Conspiracy theorists would love this, maybe this will help you out Angle of the Sun me it was just a failed idea, but thanks for the post bumps:mrgreen:
 
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One sun several posts :)
 

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One sun several posts :)
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The shadows are on the ground not on a vertical wall. Big difference.:cheesygrin:And how is it possible for the nail shadow to wrap around the tower? Wouldn't there be a shadow on the entire face of the tower caused by the tower itself?

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Your theory is correct if the nail was in fact in the original photo it wasnt so the light reflecting and the shadow underside of the image does not show where the sun is. My Point is and not arguing it is my opinion that Pauls original image is probably closer to the reality of a shadow being cast downwards that time of day in the UK in the summer meaning the sun would be quite level with the Nail and looking straght down great george street and off to the side so his angle is correct position maybe slightly off.

However I am keeping an eye on a certain website you are promoting I have noticed it
 
thought the same thing lol(about the light source)... Anyways it looks pretty funny, good job.

I'll half agree with Paul because the light does seem to be facing the clockside of the tower, but it isnt nearing midnight and as you can tell by the car shadows the sun is much higher. So yes, the shadow placement is vertically opposite (in reality), facing towards the ground.
 
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But then why are we arguing over a shadow when there is a massive skyscraper being dwarfed by big ben yet in reality is way taller and further down the river
 
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