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The Freelance Section


Logos are used on websites as well. Additionally most people, including me, work large then reduce the size later. That can make a logo usable for some printing applications like a business card or a letterhead for instance.

Ok. I would guess that the risk was extremely small though, especially when it comes to things that I have made lol.
 
The largest JPG that can be attached here is 1920X1280.
At that size with the resolution set to 300 you can print a photo realistic 6X4 print.
With the right image you could double the size and see very little difference printed as an 8X10.

Most of the stuff edited here is for the web, so the images posted here can be more than large enough to be used for many purposes.
If someone offers $$ for a 640X480 for the web and you post it without a watermark, what's his motivation to pay you.

As a reference the new PSG logo on the top of every page is 230X92 rez-72.
If it weren't so site specific it could be grabbed by anyone and used for free, it cost us $200.
 
I believe any work on request should have fees on, if not just do contest there are all over internet ;-)))

And moderator could be a key indeed Steve, but extra work !

Good luck with that !
Nat
 
As a reference the new PSG logo on the top of every page is 230X92 rez-72.
If it weren't so site specific it could be grabbed by anyone and used for free, it cost us $200.

How did that cost you $200?

Maybe as a suggestion, make it easier for new people on the forum, to put their threads in the correct area. It has happened twice now where I thaught I was just doing a favour for somebody, but inbetween first seeing the thread and posting the reply, it gets moved to the freelance section without me knowing.

If I post some thing that shows what an iPhone cover would look like with my designs on, but I know for a fact that this image I gave could not be used at all for what he wanted, why do I need a water mark. I'll show you what I mean.

The image I posted:-
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Then this is the smallest dimension of image required to get it to look like that:-
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I for one would not give somebody free work in the freelance section, as long as it was in there when I read the thread.
 
Posts get moved when they are put in the wrong sections.
If it needs to get moved into Freelance then it gets moved.

It's always been assumed that the work done for a fee would be low rez or watermarked.

From:
http://www.photoshopgurus.com/forum...uctions-posting-freelance-job-read-first.html

"The usual method is for the designer to show you low-resolution or watermarked samples of the work, and when it is completed to your satisfaction you can then send payment and after receiving payment the designer will send the high resolution or PSD file." Posted in July of 2010

In spite of that members were posting high resolution finish images there, cheating themselves and any other members that might have made some money in the freelance section.

Because of that all images are moderated in that section and all images will have to be watermarked.

I'm not going to download every file and arbitrarily make the decision that an image is or isn't a low enough resolution as to be useful.

The moderation of attachments was started almost 4 weeks ago, not yesterday.

Sorry for any confusion.
Steve
 
I think changing the name so it is more applicable and understanding was a good idea. A lot of people think that Freelance work is just that... 'free'.

Maybe even changing it to 'Paid work requests' or something like that?


I do however feel that 'having' to watermark your work is a little silly... If you're designing something for print, posting a 72dpi 500px tall image couldn't possibly be used by anyone. Yes, maybe a little web banner could be, but it should be up to the author's discretion whether he/she watermarks their own work.
 
the watermarks are there so the person doesn't get the work for free, if they have means of paying.
 
I understand that, but it depends on the nature of the work.

It's more common practice to send a low res (unusable) version of the artwork to your client than it is to cover it in watermarks. That died out years ago.
 
When someone posts a job here it comes down to just one thing.
PSG is providing a place where anyone that has been a member here over 30 days, with 30 posts can compete for the work.

What you personally do in your business I'm sure is to provide unusable samples but what was happening here at PSG was people posting images large enough to be used, and since a lot of it was for the web it didn't need to be that big.

When that happens everybody looses.
Why pay for something you just got for free.

The only way the staff here can be sure that the sample images are unusable is to thoroughly read every thread, question the OP on use and size requirements if not listed and download each image to make sure it isn't usable.

Or we can look for a watermark.

Since every day new members are eligible to post in the Freelance section the problem would just continue and the Freelance section will just wither and die.

It's my hope this section does well, right now it's crawling along but doing better than it's done in the past.

I'm pretty sure watermarking is alive and well but even if it isn't it's the only way the staff here can quickly check the images and increase the probability of someone getting paid for their work.
 
What I was trying to say, is that people are obviously not finding the correct part of the forum to place the jobs in the first place.

Would it not be better placed in Photoshop & Graphic Design Forum, rather than Art Board? Not only does it better describe the nature of what the jobs are, it is also close to the top of the list of forum sections.

 
You think it should go here, someone else thinks it should go there.
Someone else thinks it should be named this, and another person thinks it should be called that.

There are three sticky posts in that section explaining the rules and the "one and only announcement" on PSG appears in that section.

All the Administrators and Moderators have signatures that link to all the rules and they include the Freelance section rules and yet nobody understands what's going on.

Nobody is reading the stickys, the rules, the announcements, etc., etc.

Finely, it's been our experience that although we move a few posts, most post are in the right sections.

Unfortunately, most post in the Freelance section that shouldn't be there are a result people not reading the stickys, reading the rules, or paying attention to the section they're replying to.

I appreciate that a specific thread may have been moved to the Freelance section, I have no record of it one way or another, but our members need to take some responsibility and be aware of the section they're replying to.
 
Thank you for clearing that up!

I'm still sure the freelance section was better categorized back in 2009, rather than in an "Art Board" section, just doesn't make sense to me.
 

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