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Portraiture vs High Pass skin softening


Foley_Fotos

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I recently downloaded Portraiture for skin softening and I wanted to know if it's a better technique to soften skin than softening with the High Pass filter. Most of my pictures are of my twin 6 month old babies. Is there a better technique to soften skin then Portraiture or High Pass?
 
I invert the High Pass layer then use the Gaussian Blur filter to soften the skin. High Pass find the edges so by inverting the layer it allows me to soften everything but the edges.
 
I invert the High Pass layer then use the Gaussian Blur filter to soften the skin. High Pass find the edges so by inverting the layer it allows me to soften everything but the edges.
Hm, I never heard of that I'll have try that out.
I have used Portrait Professional Studio, I assume that's what you're talking about.

Personally I would prefer doing these changes in Photoshop rather in a slide oriented plugin.
That's just me though, if you like what you get out of PPS that's all that matters and since I don't do this kind of work, PPS probably does I better job than I could ever do.

Sorry I didn't answer your question though did I?
 
Whether it's an inverted high pass filter, another layer with a Gaussian blur at partial opacity, the surface blur tool, or any other approach that purports to retouch all of the skin at once, these are all shotgun approachs that almost always yield an artificial look to the skin. The results of these approaches may wow unsophisticated mom-and-pop and teen / yearbook customers into thinking they look glamorous, but are never, EVER used by high end professional retouchers.

Instead, high end retouchers slowly work their way through the image, fixing things in tiny areas, blemish by blemish, using the patch, spot healing, clone stamp and similar tools. They may then use tools like "Color Mechanic" to make the hue and saturation of problem areas match the hue and saturation of good nearby skin. They may then use dodging, burning, and brushed on saturation to define bone structure, etc.

I'm not familiar with "Portraiture", the program you just purchased, but if you want to see an example of how many completely different types of skin adjustments are made even by an automated skin retouching program, download an evaluation copy of "Portrait Professional" and expand the adjustments tab. I haven't counted them all, but there probably has to be at least a couple of dozen different skin adjustments in that program. A good retoucher will make all of the adjustments seen plus more.

If you don't want to make all these changes yourself, first spot the face with the patch, clone and similar tools, then import the result into Portrait Pro, but instead of accepting the default settings, adjust the sliders manually and use the effects sparingly.

HTH,

Tom M
 
In case you don't want to download the evaluation copy of Portrait Professional, here are some of the controls in the latest version. Note that to save space, I did not fully expand some of the controls. Any that have an arrowhead facing right can be further expanded. Any that have an arrowhead facing down are already expanded.

As you can see, under skin smoothing alone, there are many controls, and because skin smoothing often interacts with skin lighting and coloring, it's important to recognize these interactions and have ways to optimize them.

HTH,

Tom M
 

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So, to summarize the answer to your question, yes, there are vastly better methods to process a portrait than any simple, shotgun "skin smoothing" method. It all depends how much work / $$$ you want to put into it.

Tom M
 
My guess as to the reason for the overdone efx is that to sell their product to the largest number of people, they have to dramatically over-do the strength of the efx in their advertisements. Fortunately, their program has lots of sliders, so it's easy to dial back the strength of any or all of the efx. I actually regard it as quite a good program and an enormous time saver when processing lots of pix, but if at all possible, I always try to precede it with some manual spotting of the major blemishes, lines, bags, etc.

Tom
 
Tom's the man at explaining via word and image, but...His versions are by no means the only way to get to where you want to get to my friend.
His explanation and semi tut are just pointers like all here who post such things.
They are to guide you/help you along the way and help you realise that no one way is the shop way - this is why the shop is such an excellent and versatile tool to own.
Try all sorts of blending and softening techniques, until you reach your own happy medium.
 
To be honest, I wouldn't do any smoothing on that photo because it's already sufficiently soft enough so that pores and baby fuzz isn't resolved. More smoothing and the skin would look fake, IMHO.

The 1st technical problem that catches my eye when I look at that photo is excess contrast ratio, with some areas bordering on being completely blown out. If I had the raw file, straight from the camera, the first thing I would do is try to fix the lighting.

Cheers,

Tom
 

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Heh - You wanted skin smoothing and instead, I sharpened it. Take THAT!

T

PS - pls ignore the weird line across the bottom ... I have no idea what happened there. Also, if I had more than 5 min to play with this, for this kid, I probably would put a more of a magenta tint instead of yellow into the cheeks and surrounding areas, but gotta run. CU tonight, (east coast USA time).

PPS - FYI, sharpening courtesy "Focus Magic".
 

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It looks like you sprayed orange spraytan all over the poor kid :bustagut:
 
(Orange cheeks)........ I don't know, Jaundice maybe:bustagut:... you know I am kidding right
 
Yeaah, I know I shouldn't have rushed to reply to Paul's challenge. Try this instead.

T
 

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You guys. I am just wondering why someone would want to soften a baby's skin. C'mon guys! If I had skin as soft as a baby, I'd cry! You know what they say, soft as a baby's 'fill in the blank.' So I guess I would find a nice baby's 'fill in the blank' and clone it onto the face! That's what I would do.
 

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