What's new
By:
Photoshop Gurus Forum

Welcome to Photoshop Gurus forum. Register a free account today to become a member! It's completely free. Once signed in, you'll enjoy an ad-free experience and be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

I made this Page


hmmm well I didn't see any rewards from a quick look on macromedia's website but I did find http://www.macromedia.com/bin/report_piracy.cgi a place to report piracy an email tip@macromedia.com to report sites providing serial numbers or software and a phone number 800-343-3325 to report piracy.

I've become such an ass since going to college. The other day I was looking at "graphic design" on ebay and was trying to report a kid to Playtex for using their "Mr. bubble" character and claiming he designed the logo. don't know what happened about it.

Maybe I should switch majors and become an anti piracy advocate. I bet I could have a quite fullfilling life screwing over the average middle class kid who decided to steal software.
 
[confused] Has realneed4speed left the building? No forwarding address? [confused]

:bustagut:
 
LoL, now i see why trouble professionalism can be such a bother. [sly]

It is a personality trait to be developed, not jst an adjective to describe the result of ones labour. Your work reflects your attitude, headspace, and ethics....if the sites looks !so! lacking in a professional image, perhaps your lack of this "trait" is the reason.


and please ... DO NOT DISS FLASH ... secretly I am a Macromedia junky and I find this opinion......ignorant.....it hurt :{ ......for days.........wounded


mum always said son, opinions are like............ [shhh]
 
SpAwNoF said:
and please ... DO NOT DISS FLASH ... secretly I am a Macromedia junky and I find this opinion......ignorant.....it hurt :{ ......for days.........wounded
Click to expand...
If realneed4speed thinks that Flash is not professional... why does that hurt you so much? [confused]
I mean, this is about a program SpAwNoF [stuned] Some moulded zeros and ones called software... [confused]
 
I do not know why it hurts me personally, maybe I am just a macromedia advertising success.......subliminal programming....
everytime i open flash i get....
"YOU LOVE MACROMEDIA! TO LIVE WITHOUT IT OR HEAR BAD OF IT WILL CAUSE YOU GREAT PAIN" :bustagut:
No, i just love the program, i think it is so powerful, and too widely used by ppl building home pages......
In the right hands, It is just such a powerful tool......
*looks around the forum*


I think I have some problems...... [stuned]
 
Flash is a professional program, period :D

And If you are using an illegal version of any product for educational purposes and not profiting from its use in anyway, the big guys will not come for you.

Why not? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


example.....

Joe Blogs is a uni student learning say "flash, photoshop etc" and at home he is using cracked versions of the software in order to sharpen his skills for the industry....now seeing he will one day be employable by businesses using paid commercial versions, the skills he has gained will encourage and validate the $$$ spent by his empoyer on the products in question.

2 years later, Joe blogs decides to freelance, in doing so he then buys the commercial versions of the software, in turn generating $$$ for the company he bought them from.

2 years later he actually hires staff of his own and turns into a desgign studio, in turn generating more $$$$$.

In the case of the IT development industry, cracked software is an advertises dream, its a free pitch, it creates a boom in its user base and gains mass attention within the industry.

Thats my take.....and in saying that lets make it clear I only advocate such actions for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. Once you make money from using the software, YOU OWE ITS DEVELOPERS MONEY! If you dont pay u deserve jail.
 
I disagree.

The reason why they don't go after the little guys has other reasons.

First of all you have to be careful not to invade someone's privacy. Yes, they can make the illegal version call home and then what? They knock on the guy's door and say; you use an illegal version. The guy says; ?you invaded my privacy!? and goes to court. Now things get really complicated... when do you invade someone's privacy? Spam, cookies, Java, what is invading of privacy?

But even if this guy doesn?t go to court for 'invasion of privacy', then it?s still costing companies a lot of time, effort and money to get one single guy convicted.
And what about all the other millions of illegal users outside the US, spread all over the world?

I really don't believe that they don't go after the little guys, because of bad effects on their profits!

The fact is, if you need a designer, a programmer, a teacher, an administrator, then you will find one even if nobody uses illegal software.
Let?s say that everybody uses illegal software, so instead of 1,000,000 web designers, you will have 10,000,000. And now the question will be? What are we going to do with 10 times more web designers? Can you see the problem?

See, they don?t go after the ?little? guys because it?s not worth it, but companies, well that?s another story. No, company can come up with the reason ?only for educational purposes?, even if they DO use it only for that purpose. It?s all in the license agreement.

It's not without a reason that Microsoft introduced a new copy protection for Windows XP, Visio, Office, etc. They even admitted that it is intended to avoid the use of illegal software at home.
 
lots of companies offer educational versions for a lower price and have student discounts. and then later on you can upgrade to the full version (really just takes the words educational version off the splash screen) at the cost of the upgrade. I know I did it with photoshop from version 5 to 6 and then 7.

so I don't see why pirated software for educational purposes should be tolerated. if we could do illegal activities for educational purposes I could justify raping people for sex education (yes its an extreme and rather vulgar but so is software piracy)

but you are right they won't go after individual users but they should go after those distributing the software *cough* the guy on kazaa *cough*

and with the Patriot Act (isn't america great) which is really mcarthyism only the communists are called terrorists american pirates could be hunted down. we've given up our privacy rights to stop terror. (and with the current situation around the world I would say we're failures)
 
I am sure if you pulled the plug and made it impossible to crack software, at least 2 things will happen.

1) the value for skills will skyrocket beyond reason, the majority of uses will be under par by todays standards and/or take alot longer to gain experience because competition would be less and most likely get lazy.

2) the retail demand for such products will drop significantly, because less people can use them and less can afford to pay for staff who can.


No company in their right mind will sue a student "LEARNING THEIR" software. Yes, the cost involved in doing so will far outway the NONbennifets of doing so. I bet the Execs at macromedia have no concern whatsoever that so many amateurs are securing their softwares market in years to come. And I do believe the fact that the software being available so readily accounts for a large majority of amateur uses. I bet ur bottom dollar that 90%+ of un-professional browses of this site are using cracks.

As for educational versions, they should be free or 90% cheaper then they are. A typical design student learns about 10 - 12 programs, each educational version ranges from 100 - 200 bucks (in australia) thats over 1000 bucks!!! Most students here earn less then 150 bucks a week. Seeing this is a very competative industry (because every man and his dog can pick up and learn the software) students need to have the software available to get an edge.

It isnt a crime to learn something. However, it's a crime to profit from someone elses hard work, no grey areas there, unless your a CEO hehe. No business thats worthy of the tag "proffesional" would use pirate software.
 
I agree its expensive software but well worth it but if schools could work deals with the companies the prices could be lower. I went to a school for a while that had a deal with microsoft and they distributed microsoft software for $5 a cd so I could get office Xp Professional for like $20.

and deep down I think most people are honest and if they could get it cheap they would buy it instead of stealing. but I highly doubt that the companies are going to start offering the software cheaper especially with the market being flooded by kids that see all those awful commercials on tv and think "hey that commercial says I can be rich if I'm a graphic designer" what ever happened to people wanting to be nurses and teachers... if more people did that the value of my skills would skyrocket and there would be so much less competition. (and NAPP would probably have a more professional member list)


I also don't really think that the retail market needs such sophisticated software. I dated a girl for a while that was happy with MS Paint until I showed her how much more one can do with photoshop. but really I think that programs like adobe's photoshop elements is sufficent for the average consumer who wants to screw with their digital pics and maybe doodle with their mouse.(or their small wacom tablet.)

the other bright side to keeping people from programs early on is that they would develop skills in fine arts that could later be used with the software skills. and sketching the idea out for a client can be very important. but yeah I'm rambling..so I'll stop.. Boo to Piracy
 
I agree that education institutes should negotiate deals with software companies. If educational versions were 20 bucks a pop, it would be well worth it, having a hard copy original that is the real deal is far, far better then cracked versions.
 
Back
Top