Adobe- New Photoshop Upgrade -Huge

[Tom Mann]

Personally, my Rx would be a good strong wiff of photographic fixer with a lemon chaser for this gang!

BTW, my CC upgrade/update went in smooth as silk. I just checked all my plugins and with one exception, they all seem to be working perfectly, and that one seems to have forgotten that I paid for it several years ago. :sad:


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[MrToM]

Photoshop CC 2014?

Are Adobe serious?

I mean lets face facts, this isn't going to be an easy update, Adobe just doesn't write them.
Already I'm seeing complaints about Filters and Plugins being lost, preferences not being transferred, unable to load extensions, missing features like 'focus area' and 'blur along path'........same story, different product.

Why did they add '2014' as the extension?
Its going to be way into 2015 before this updates correctly first time every time.
(I'm kidding, first time every time will never happen, but you get the drift).

I may have to miss out on this update, I don't have a free week to install it.

Regards.
MrTom.

 

[Tom Mann]

FWIW, I downloaded and updated 5 CC apps in about 7 or 8 min without so much as the slightest hickup. OTOH, this a very clean, few month old fast machine with lots of RAM.

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[ALB68]

egosbar
I'm no math whiz but there is something wrong with this picture. The "update" for Photoshop is a brand new complete version Photoshop 2014 and it alone is 1.2 GB. 1MB per second is horribly slow. My DL speed is 10 MB per second (verified) and it took awhile to get it. I, at first, didn't realize it was a complete new program and the other release (14.2) was left intact. When I finished the download, I clicked on my desktop shortcut and discovered nothing had changed. I chatted online with Adobe and he had me to look in All Programs and low and behold, there it is..all 1.2 GB of it, new look and all.
Are you sure you actually got this?
Edit: Math 1GB=1024MB 1.2GB=1228 MB/60secs per minute=20.48 minutes.

i just updated , i have a cc subscription , im only using a mid priced laptop , my internet is broadband bigpond , i can download at 1mb per second

i downloaded photoshop update , extension manager cc update and bridge update all in under five minutes

 

[MrToM]

@ Tom Mann,

Yeah sorry, my post wasn't in reply to you, you sneaked in your post just before I did mine........yours wasn't there when I started writing, had it have been I may have worded mine differently.

I did hear that someone managed an update without any problems.....that must have been you!

Did you find a four-leaf clover or something?

Regards.
MrTom.

 

[ALB68]

What time of the day did you do it Tom? It could be that when iDAD and I did ours the Adobe server may have been overwhelmed with traffic. I only have 8GB of ram (max) and a DSL connection that is pretty fast but I don't think as fast as cable.

FWIW, I downloaded and updated 5 CC apps in about 7 or 8 min without so much as the slightest hickup. OTOH, this a very clean, few month old fast machine with lots of RAM.

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[ALB68]

I didn't have any issues with it as far as the update went other than the speed. (Maybe my problem). I have used the upgraded resize feature and it appears to work quite well. The content aware fills, patch tool and content aware move tools worked better too. Especially the patch tool..I was shocked at how well.
My plugins didn't migrate but it was no big deal to move them over.

@ Tom Mann,

Yeah sorry, my post wasn't in reply to you, you sneaked in your post just before I did mine........yours wasn't there when I started writing, had it have been I may have worded mine differently.

I did hear that someone managed an update without any problems.....that must have been you!

Did you find a four-leaf clover or something?

Regards.
MrTom.

 

[MrToM]

With all due respect to both egosbar and ALB68 there does seem to be some confusion here.

Lets take the 1.2GB PS CC 2014 download as an example:
This equates to 1228000 bytes of data.

@ egosbar's 1mbs (1 milli-bit per second):
1 bit would take 1000 seconds.
1 byte would take 8000 seconds.
1228000 bytes would take (1228000 * 8000) seconds.
9824000000 seconds is a little over 311 years.
A tad slow?

@ ALB68's 10MBs (10 THOUSAND(MEGA) BYTES per second):
1 byte would take 0.0001 seconds (1/10000).
1228000 bytes would take (1228000 * 0.0001) seconds.
122.8 seconds is a little over 2 minutes.
A tad quick?

Most download speeds are given as Mb/s or MEGA bits per second.
Here is my pathetic download/upload results:



So if we look again using Mb instead of mb and MB:
@ 1Mb/s this equates to around 2.7 hrs. (1000 b/s = 125 bytes /s 1228000/125 = 9824 s).
@ 10Mb/s this equates to around 16.3 mins. (10000 b/s = 1250 bytes /s = 1228000/1250 = 982 s).
@ 2.12Mb/s this equates to around 1.28 hrs (2120 b/s = 265 bytes /s = 1228000/265 = 4633 s).

If your speeds are in Mb then these are the sort of download times I'd expect to get.

Be careful when quoting speeds, MB is not the same as Mb. (And mb is hardly ever used).

Regards.
MrTom.

 

[ALB68]

Thank you for the education Tom. I can still tell time and mine took over an hour. There may be other factors involved.
I thunk the mb was MB , my stupidity.

With all due respect to both egosbar and ALB68 there does seem to be some confusion here.

Lets take the 1.2GB PS CC 2014 download as an example:
This equates to 1228000 bytes of data.

@ egosbar's 1mbs (1 milli-bit per second):
1 bit would take 1000 seconds.
1 byte would take 8000 seconds.
1228000 bytes would take (1228000 * 8000) seconds.
9824000000 seconds is a little over 311 years.
A tad slow?

@ ALB68's 10MBs (10 THOUSAND(MEGA) BYTES per second):
1 byte would take 0.0001 seconds (1/10000).
1228000 bytes would take (1228000 * 0.0001) seconds.
122.8 seconds is a little over 2 minutes.
A tad quick?

Most download speeds are given as Mb/s or MEGA bits per second.
Here is my pathetic download/upload results:

View attachment 46537

So if we look again using Mb instead of mb and MB:
@ 1Mb/s this equates to around 2.7 hrs. (1000 b/s = 125 bytes /s 1228000/125 = 9824 s).
@ 10Mb/s this equates to around 16.3 mins. (10000 b/s = 1250 bytes /s = 1228000/1250 = 982 s).
@ 2.12Mb/s this equates to around 1.28 hrs (2120 b/s = 265 bytes /s = 1228000/265 = 4633 s).

If your speeds are in Mb then these are the sort of download times I'd expect to get.

Be careful when quoting speeds, MB is not the same as Mb. (And mb is hardly ever used).

Regards.
MrTom.

 

[Tom Mann]

Larry, MrTom - FYI, I have Verizon's fiber optic service coming into the house. I just measured the download speed I'm getting and found it to be ~25 Mbps (see attached) at 11 AM (lots of users on). It's usually 2-3x that in the dead of the night (east coast time) when I downloaded the CC update.





Most of the time I spent on the update was downloading. The actual installation of the new software was much faster compared to that.

@MrTom - Unfortunately, I'm not very good at finding 4 leaf clover, LOL.

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[MrToM]

Edit: Math 1GB=1024MB 1.2GB=1228 MB/60secs per minute=20.48 minutes.

So who took 20.48 mins?
I thought that was you?

Not that it matters but my calculations agreed with yours above, (you got the maths right, just the units were out), give or take a few mins here and there and not forgetting that D/L speeds are just one moment in time rather than an average.

Now I'm confused!

Regards.
MrTom.

 

[MrToM]

It's usually 2-3x that in the dead of the night...

Really?

I'd be happy with half that!

Service in the UK really does suck by comparison, although mine is probably the worst of the bunch.

Regards.
MrTom.

 

[Tom Mann]

Yup, one may sign up for their 75/35 Mb/s service, but if you read the fine print, they don't actually guarantee those rates, at least for private residences. They may offer a more firm quote for business users, but you're still often limited by the remainder of the connections between you and the server you're trying to communicate with.

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[ALB68]

Jeez..no wonder! Fiber optic huh..the only kind of fiber I got down here in this place grows in the field out here!

Larry, MrTom - FYI, I have Verizon's fiber optic service coming into the house. I just measured the download speed I'm getting and found it to be ~25 Mbps (see attached) at 11 AM (lots of users on). It's usually 2-3x that in the dead of the night (east coast time) when I downloaded the CC update.

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Most of the time I spent on the update was downloading. The actual installation of the new software was much faster compared to that.

@MrTom - Unfortunately, I'm not very good at finding 4 leaf clover, LOL.

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[ALB68]

My answer was theoretical ,,incorrect anyway. I was saying to egosbar that it would have taken at least 20 minutes, not 5 minutes.

So who took 20.48 mins?
I thought that was you?

Not that it matters but my calculations agreed with yours above, (you got the maths right, just the units were out), give or take a few mins here and there and not forgetting that D/L speeds are just one moment in time rather than an average.

Now I'm confused!

Regards.
MrTom.

 

[MikeMc]

Larry and others.....What do I gain from CC vs CS5.5 ??

I downloaded and do not see much more. Few pointers please??

 

[iDad]

Hi Mike I'm not sure if you'll be able to see this but read this blog also some information for the update http://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/creative-cloud-for-2014-is-here/

 

[ALB68]

Mike,
The main thing I like about the CC in general is accessibility to all of the software. I am now a user of Adobe Illustrator, which I was able to afford under CC and have since learned pretty much how to use it effectively. The updates, bug fixes and all that stuff come to me just as soon as it is released.
Photoshop, with this latest release, has improved the text viewing capabilities, given PS a link to their online fonts (was in Illustrator but not PS), has some new blur filters (especially like the spin blur), improved the content aware fill, patch and move tools, has done some things to improve performance etc. I can justify the cost for it because of how I use it. I do a lot of designs for screen printing and my laser business, so I use the software every day for making income. I can understand how some people can't justify the monthly charge, but after all has been said and done, it's a pretty good value.

Larry and others.....What do I gain from CC vs CS5.5 ??

I downloaded and do not see much more. Few pointers please??

 

[MikeMc]

Well I have 29 more days to play. I noticed that the "pallets" are a bit different, everything has a "newer look" distracting to me, but time will tell. I must play with the Content Aware and need to see if the changes make it worth $120.00 upfront. It does seem to be a tad quicker, I did just figure out how to move my plug ins so I am in play mode, Thanks for the reply!

 

[ALB68]

The Image Size function has been redone also..seems to work better. Output is better too.
Why $120.00?

Well I have 29 more days to play. I noticed that the "pallets" are a bit different, everything has a "newer look" distracting to me, but time will tell. I must play with the Content Aware and need to see if the changes make it worth $120.00 upfront. It does seem to be a tad quicker, I did just figure out how to move my plug ins so I am in play mode, Thanks for the reply!