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Paid Watermarks!


IamSam

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I would like to take the time to remind all of our freelancers who wish to participate in the Paid Ps Request forum, that it is your individual responsibilities to provide adequate watermarking of your edited photos! Anyone not doing so will have their edits removed and possibly face additional consequences.

I have received many complaints that some of you are not covering the edited areas with sufficient watermarking! If the affected area of the photo you have edited and submitted for public viewing is not covered with a watermark, the OP can easily select the area you have edited and add it to their original photo!! Therefore, the OP has no need to pay anyone for their efforts....................everyone loses!

This has been a reoccurring problem and is not acceptable! There has been a rule change.

From this point forward, your watermarks will be a clearly visible grid pattern that completely covers the entire edited image. This grid pattern should be adjusted in size so that the edited area is rendered unusable and the watermark can not be edited out.
 
Now that the Paid request is complete, I can provide some examples.

Note: This is also a major problem for edited images submitted in privacy via PM!!!

This was the original image.
The request was to remove the lady in front of the guy in the background on the right.
FuQuUDkX0BASrFa.jpg



PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FOLLOWING IS NOT MEANT TO EMBARRASS ANYONE! IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO POINT OUT AN ONGOING PROBLEM AND TO LEARN!

Here are some of the watermarks on submitted edits.
Please note that the edited area is not covered by an effective watermark.
(Any of these submissions can be added to the original with simple layer masking!)
edited woman removed copy 2.jpg
edited woman removed copy 2(1).jpg
figur0.jpg
edited woman removed copyfinal 3.jpg

Picsart_23-05-01_09-06-33-624.jpg

Here was a example of trying to improve on a watermark.
Picsart_23-05-01_13-31-05-502.jpg

In addition to not covering the edited area, you must remember, the watermark has to be strong enough as to not be removed.

Here I demonstrate how easily, and with little to no skills, the watermark can be removed.
Note: I realize that not all the OP's who make paid requests have any Ps skills.................over the years we have had this problem and the watermark removals were done by the OP.

The edited submission downloaded.
Opened as a layer above the original photos layer.
Screen Shot 2023-05-01 at 12.01.07 PM.png

Added a simple layer mask.
Used the Brush Tool to mask out as much of the watermark without showing the guy and girl from the underlying original image.
Screen Shot 2023-05-01 at 12.01.19 PM.png

Then I created a new layer and used the Clone Stamp Tool to quickly and easily clone out the remainder of the watermark!
This was a very easy and low skill solution to removing the watermark over the affected area.
Screen Shot 2023-05-01 at 12.01.32 PM.png

Now we need to discuss what constitutes and ADEQUATE watermark? Note: There are many opinions on how to create effective watermarks!

When you watermark your own work, this forum really doesn't care how you do it! But when you are watermarking your edits for the PAID forum, they need to completely render the edited sample unusable by the OP!!! We do this so that the OP does not use a poorly watermarked edit sample to do their own edit and skip out on paying. Everyone loses when this happens and your/their work is done for nothing. It only takes one member to submit a poorly watermarked image to ruin it for the rest!

You guys may not remember, but years ago we had a member who challenged me to remove one of his watermarks........which covered the entire image. I did so with relative ease..........but I'm a little more adept with Ps than some.
After I did so, he and I had PM's and he asked me what kind of watermarking could stop me from being able to remove it. My answer was that there were not many watermarkings that could not be removed if someone was determined.

Here's one effective method I showed him, only I will use the example which is the topic of our discussion here.

Original edit.
Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 1.19.00 PM.png

The first thing I would do is discolor the edited area! Maybe Black and White as it would require colorization! This does not impede the OP's ability to assess the edit.
While it's fairly easy for a seasoned shopper to deal with, it now requires some fairly advanced skills to alter the offset hue change or recolor the edited area.
Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 1.19.21 PM.png

Secondly, I would then I would add a very obnoxious Guilloche pattern!
Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 1.25.30 PM.png
Black and White
Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 1.43.35 PM.png
This would be a major pain in the backside to remove!

However, in this particular case, the edited area of the image is still not a great challenge to remove the watermark by more experienced shoppers. Also, if this sample edit had the GUY in the BG, it would really be hard to remove!

The OP's, in most cases, are probably not skilled enough to deal with this type of removal..............after all, they are here asking for a paid edit! If they had the more advanced skills (or time) they would not be here requesting a paid edit!

You don' have to use a radical watermark as I have shown above. Just be considerate of your fellow freelancers and add bright (or dark) grid style watermark that COVERS the edited area(s) that would be very difficult to remove!
 
As a part of the discussion, I wanted to mention that I just today came across sites where they accept watermarked images and remove watermarks using AI.
www watermarkremover io
www aiseesoft com / watermark-remover-online

We might want to consider reducing resolution for watermarked images to overcome this hurdle?
 
As a part of the discussion, I wanted to mention that I just today came across sites where they accept watermarked images and remove watermarks using AI.
www watermarkremover io
www aiseesoft com / watermark-remover-online

We might want to consider reducing resolution for watermarked images to overcome this hurdle?
Thanks for this link
Thank you for the link

It's not foolproof
2023-05-04_08-17-22.jpg
 
where they accept watermarked images and remove watermarks using AI.
Exactly!

We might want to consider reducing resolution for watermarked images to overcome this hurdle?
Yes...........which is also why I was talking about such a radical watermark. I was anticipating AI, I just had not checked to see if it was available so I didn't mention it! Reducing resolution is a great idea................depending on the degree of reduction, this could also be an easy fix for the AI as well.

Perhaps this issue needs to be investigated further!
 
.depending on the degree of reduction, this could also be an easy fix for the AI as well.
lol...there is only so much we can try. But, we definitely have to take all reasonable measures to protect copyrights - which is hard work of creative artists. At least we should ensure that if a person is trying to steal by removing watermarks, their job gets very tough.

I was doing a simple Google search to see if there are any readily available Watermarks in PNG format when it showed results of "Watermark Remover".

I am considering using a Guilloche pattern for watermark.
 


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