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Trying to ease the creation of Arches in Photoshop


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Ibn Saeed

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Hello

I am trying to create a Gothic Arch in Photoshop.

Here are some examples of arches:
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And here is my rendition of the above arch:

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I am mainly concerned with getting the Voussoir (A voussoir is a wedge-shaped element, typically a stone used in building an arch) at correct distances from each other.


Also, I would like to move it in Perspective toward the Right, so for a visitors to the site , it would appear to be looking from an angle.

Is there an easier way of creating such arches in photoshop, especially the perspective part.

I have used the Perspective Transform tool, but i am not satisfied with the result, it squishes one side of the arch and makes it thinner to the one facing.
 
Welcome Ibn.
I don't think I'm going to be much help here, it's not what I do.

What about the voussoir looks wrong to you?
The spacing and size of those pieces in both photo and your drawing are all different but architecturally is yours wrong?

As for perspective I don't think you're going to get the look you want with the flat image.
As you adjust the perspective you need to see the inside of one column and the outside of the other, like the photos.
 
Steve said:
What about the voussoir looks wrong to you?
The spacing and size of those pieces in both photo and your drawing are all different but architecturally is yours wrong?
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Thank you for replying.
I think my rendition is correct, but process is quite long. I had to draw each voussoir individually, by pointing towards the horizon.

I want to know if theres any quick method of repeating the steps with precise difference in spacing between each.


Steve said:
As for perspective I don't think you're going to get the look you want with the flat image.
As you adjust the perspective you need to see the inside of one column and the outside of the other, like the photos.
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I went ahead and applied the following transform tools:

1). Default State in 2D without any transform
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2). With Perspective Only
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3). With Perspective + Distort
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I am not experienced with perspective, but is the side which is far away supposed to be thinner than the one facing us. ?

For e.g.

The Left Side is thinner than the Right Side.
 
I think your on the right path with #3
I think you're being thrown off by the 2D.

It's not a cardboard cutout, it's stone with depth

I put a fast and dirty adjustment and tried to add some depth to the image.

3d.jpg

Does it look mor natural now to you?
 
Steve said:
I think your on the right path with #3
I think you're being thrown off by the 2D.

It's not a cardboard cutout, it's stone with depth

I put a fast and dirty adjustment and tried to add some depth to the image.

View attachment 1570

Does it look mor natural now to you?
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yes, its a lot better. How did you add depth to it ? Are there any tutorials ?
 
I just copied the right side of the arch to a new layer.
I used Transform with a lot of trial and error until it looked right and put it next to the right column.
Darkened it and lowered the saturation.

Of course a mask to hide what I didn't need.

Tutorials, I don't know, I just winged it.
 
Steve said:
I just copied the right side of the arch to a new layer.
I used Transform with a lot of trial and error until it looked right and put it next to the right column.
Darkened it and lowered the saturation.

Of course a mask to hide what I didn't need.

Tutorials, I don't know, I just winged it.
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I got the idea of how you did it.

Ill try it out tomorrow. Time for bed

Thanks for your help, its really given me some idea of how to proceed.

Ill post back with the results.
 
Why not try and use the Bevel?? don't get me wrong, Ps can make miracles happen but i think what you are trying to achieve should be done in a 3D program..

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No link needed buddy, goto the desired layer and goto the Styles Panel and goto Bevel & Emboss.

bevel.jpg


You will have to play around with the intensity and settings but you can get some good results with the old Bevel & Emboss :)
 
Hello Guys,

I just came to check on the last post, but noticed more replies.

Its odd that i did not receive Email Notifications for the replies.

Anyway, Designz Un. I think bevel would be limited. Nevetheless, thanks for your help.

I will try out the method Steve suggested
 
Just did the Right side

Arch2Test.jpg



Arch2Test-s.jpg

What do you think, Steve, how did you achieve the round 3d effect at the intersection.



I noticed pixelation happening when Transforming. I think it would be best to draw the complete image in Illustrator or inkscape.


Any constructive criticism or advice on how to improve
 
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That looks good Ibn.
The roundness on the edge was just the result of whatever process I used to get the 3D look, it wasn't intentional or planed.
I used a mask and wasn't trying to follow a perfectly straight line.
I was trying to show some depth, to show you that the difference in widths between the columns was OK.
I wasn't trying to be neat or show you how to do it.

What you can do is use the blur to to soften that front edge, that should give it a rounded look.
I have another idea I wn't to try out later, no time right now.


Arch2Test1.jpg

Is PS the only program you have to do this?
Kevin's right, other programs are more suited for this.

As for the email, you'll only get 1 per thread unless you respond or at least log in, it says that in the email.

"There may also be other replies, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again."
 
Steve said:
That looks good Ibn.
The roundness on the edge was just the result of whatever process I used to get the 3D look, it wasn't intentional or planed.
I used a mask and wasn't trying to follow a perfectly straight line.
I was trying to show some depth, to show you that the difference in widths between the columns was OK.
I wasn't trying to be neat or show you how to do it.

What you can do is use the blur to to soften that front edge, that should give it a rounded look.
I have another idea I wn't to try out later, no time right now.
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Thanks, ill wait for your reply. In the meantime, i will try the Blur method.



Steve said:
Is PS the only program you have to do this?
Kevin's right, other programs are more suited for this.
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Thats the only one i have paid for. I have Inkscape, i dont pirate and dont want to pirate, otherwise, it will be easy to do this in illustrator. But I am not experienced with Inkscape, its like learning everything all over again, when using a new program.


Steve said:
As for the email, you'll only get 1 per thread unless you respond or at least log in, it says that in the email.

"There may also be other replies, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again."
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Got it, thanks for the clarification.
 
Dezigns Unlimited said:
Like i said, i think you are using the wrong program all together for what you are trying to do..
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I actually didnt want to use any other program, i was trying to stick with photoshop.

Thanks for the bevel method, thats the one i used in the above work, Kevin (If i may call you by that )
 
OK, I've been playing around and got this.


ArchSLS.jpg

Basically I started with your original with the blue guides and cleaned it up so I had an arch on a transparent background.
Then I used transform, prospective I think to get the angle.
I duplicated it, put it behind the 1st layer , darkened it and desaturated it and used
warp transform to line things up.

Because the 1st layer is on top of and overlapping the depth layer I was a to use a mask and carve in on the edge, making "chips" in the edge.
 
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