Mindbender, I might sound rude, but some people really need to put a lot more effort into it than Bob does. You go ahead, chew everything for him and what does it bring him? Nothing. A while back I got annoyed when someone said "grab the manual". That's something I don't agree with. We are here to help people with Photoshop and if they have a hard time with the program, then we help. You also don?t hear me whining if people ask the same question over and over again!
I put more effort into it than you did. Only after I'm more direct than most people would be, you suddenly feel the need to reply. Give me a break. I made suggestions, I created an example and I asked him to do something with it. What's so difficult to understand about that? And what did you do this last week to help him? nothing?nada.
I don't know if you're a parent, but it's the same with kids; do everything FOR them and they'll learn nothing on their own, that's when you achieve the opposite. Educating people should be a balance of teaching people and giving them the freedom to learn things on their own. I'm
not asking Bob to struggle with Photoshop, I'm asking him to look at a few images, read what others have to say and to look at my example. I want him to learn to "see". And if you would have taken the time to go through that glass ball thread, then you would have discovered that Mark was giving the same advice to several members. Those members that did take the time to ?see?, ?to try? and ?to show? learned something. That?s the way to do it and not like you holding their hand and controlling their mouse and keyboard.
Also you might want to read my earlier post in which I wrote:
"One tip: one of the tools to use is filter/distort/shear (make sure that you select the complete text and nothing but the text).
Also have a look at my letter "E"; the top horizontal line is thinner than the bottom one, ask yourself why that is and then try to do this in Photoshop too. "
That quote is in a way the solution to his problem so your comment ?That's nice and all, but maybe he just can't get it and needs a push in the right direction? makes absolutely no sense.
You wrote:
?Tweak settings, you're on the right track using text deformations on editable text layers. Experiment a lot and don't give up on it. Post what gets you the closest and we can give you pointers to refine your work. It's a process, there are lots and lots of steps in making graphics turn out correctly.?
Here you do exactly the same? giving him some directions? nothing more than I did.
Btw, the advice you gave... I repeat what Bob wrote:
"but i need the effect looking straght at it" so get rid of your warp idea
And you don't get it... he wants to know why it doesn't look right. How can you tell him how to do an effect if he doesn't even know how the end result should look in the first place?? [confused]
I?m sorry bud, but if you would have told me to be less direct, ok, but other than that you make completely no sense at all.