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Should I continue and is there a better way?


goofy21

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I have been working for quite a while with this. But I am not satisfied at all, thought I could make the waves look real but wasn't the case. in the real picture the water almost has no motion at all, but when it is black leaving it like that looks a barren picture.
Bathing Swan.jpg

Bathing Swan2.jpg

what i did was mask the girl out (I can improve the mask but was lazy as the water motion wasn't the quality i liked) and put a black bg behind her. the waves are real water waves in laid over.

Is there a beter way to turn all the white into black?(i guess not xD) and what about the water should i leave it motionless? or i should do it some other way.
 
I think the fact that the wave swirls just around her with no ripples outside of it takes away from it looking like water. And I hate to say this, but it was my first take, it looks like a diaper or swaddling clothes.

I suppose it is the blurring of all the rest of the water. I don't think it works and it certainly doesn't make for attractive.
 
Just to give you an idea of what I mean, not the whole solution. I would also bring some of the forearm up above the water if your model is posed that way. It would look more natural, but that is an artistic choice, how natural you want to be. It's kind of a difficult pose for what you want.

waves.jpg

The other thing is,, I don't know if you can find another model to work with, but if this is not a large or high res image, you may be spending too much time on it. Unless it is for practice.

Here I just traced some waves, copied, lowered opacities and made a slight motion blur. With what I had to work with, radial blur worked just as well. I did it mainly to disguise that they were clones though if you do something this way, you'd want to transform with distort and warp, etc.
 
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looks much better.

I have the highres image. it looks like if I spend a lot of time it can get quite good :]
I'll post the final one or when I need again help. It's just for practice but I want it to be very good.
 
Bathing Swan.jpg

well :frown: it is better. still has more potential.

I made her arm gradually dissappear into the black water(looks more realistic to mee) , same I tried around her ass :mrgreen: should I use that more often, like her toes or the leg that is mostly in water?

ideas are very very welcome :P
 
Better. I'd make the lower leg sink and open up her shoulder blade just the teensiest bit. I just noticed the water swirl around her neck and down her back. It looks like it is on a layer above rather than part of the water. Several reasons. It has a pattern unlike other ripples around her body and it is blurry. Also, now that you have extended/copied some ripples, I would use the transform to warp and distort them so they don't look like clones of each other.

Remember . . . it's all IMHO
 
Very nice, but in my opinion the waters edge to skin needs to be a crisp edge not a blurred one, with some translucency maybe.
 
I agree with Paul. The water may be wavy or in droplets but it will look better crisp and the translucency can convey the same idea much better. And look more like water. But I am not sure this image is working. What do you think?
 

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