Have you seen this glitch before?

[Marksy]

Hi Folks

I am playing with what is for me, a new Photo Techique. Painting with light.

I am shooing in raw, and when viewing the photos in the Canon software over PS, it gives me VERY different results BEFORE any adjustments are done.

Both images are screen captures with the first being from Canon Raw. Note that this is how the scene actually should look.



THe next picture is straight out of PS camera raw as soon as it loaded.



So my question is, since I have never seen a glitch like this before, Does anyone have any idea what is happening here?

I don't get how to overcome this, and I need Adobe to process my pics. Just fyi, It is exactly the same if I load it up in lightroom.
I am just getting into Shooting for clients and need to be able to rely on PS and Lightroom loading up my images accurately.

 

[ibclare]

That is an incredible color shift. They are opening as smart objects?

BTW, even if you answer me I likely won't have an answer, but we have a number of members on the forum at this time (maybe not at the moment) who will probably provide insight.

 

[Tom Mann]

It is common to see differences between the rendering of a raw file using software from the camera's mfgr vs using PS or LR. Adobe does not have access to the exact algorithms and curves used by the mfgr for that particular camera, so there are always some differences.

It is also common in LR / ACR to see the colors and tonality change shortly after an image is loaded. The 1st version you see is usually just the small thumbnail embedded in the raw file, whereas the changed version is the result of LR / ACR applying its default parameters and re-rendering the image. Such changes have been discussed many times on the web. If you can't find previous discussions of this, let us know and we'll be happy to hunt down some discussions of this phenomena.

My suggestion is for you to simply wait for the ACR / LR rendered version to fully develop, then adjust the parameters in these raw converters to obtain a look that you like, realistic or not.

HTH,

Tom M

 

[ibclare]

You can always spruce the pics up if you continue to have problems when you open it in Photoshop. What you're showing is a hift in the blues and that can be corrected. Or do your changes in PS. Or follow Tom's advice. :mrgreen: It's always valuable . . . when he speaks in English and not in algorithms! Though SCRTWD (SCTRWD?)and hawkeye get it, lol. My astigmatism gets worse when I see those.

 

[Marksy]

Well the problem seems to have changed or is more wide spread than I thought..
The pictures load up just fine in Canon Digital Photo Pro, so I decided to play with different pics I have taken in the past just to see if it produces the same issue.
The result is now that even pictures that loaded up and displayed correctly in Lightroom and PS previously, are now showing some serious color shifts.
The problem it seems, is in the Reds. Which would explain why the blues in my posted pics turned purple.

I loaded a couple of pictures of fall trees that I had taken a few months back, that I have had loaded in PS and LR in the past with no issue and are jpgs. The reds are completely over saturated to the point they have washed out to just being great blobs of red. All detail lost in the view.

So now I am thinking the problem lies in a different direction. It's even showing up in the Windows standard photo viewer.
As far as I can tell at this point it is one of 2 things but it is still a guess.

I recently calibrated my monitor with my Huey so that could be part of it.
I also recently installed a selection of plugins and presets for LR from the Exchange and added a couple of plugins from NIK Software.

However, the problem with this theory is that it still leaves the question of why do the pictures display fine in Canon software, and not in standard Windows Photo Softwares? Even if it was a plugin or preset issue, it should only cause problems in Adobe programs I would think.
If it was a result of the calibration, the problem would show no matter how I opened and viewed the photos.

It just doesn't make sense!

 

[Marksy]

Well, thanks to those who tried to help.

i got it figured out. It was the colour profile created by my Huey monitor calibrator that caused the problem.

I still don't get why it only impacted some of the photo software on my computer, but as soon as I killed the Huey colour calibrations everything went back to normal.

Cheers.

 

[Tom Mann]

Hi Marksy -

Your solution bothers me. If your monitor profile was installed / used correctly, it should have exactly the same effect on all color managed applications including PS, ACR, your camera specific software, color managed browsers, other image editing applications, etc.. If I understand you, the removal of that profile has different effects on different software, ie, whereas various programs had been acting differently, they are now acting similarly.

Basically, a monitor profile has one and only one purpose in life: It should intercept RGB numbers being sent to YOUR monitor and transform them into another, slightly different set of RGB values and then send the new values to YOUR monitor. However, problems often arise when someone uses that profile incorrectly, for example, tags a file meant for viewing on another computer with the profile for your monitor.

I quickly looked at the two images you posted and both seem to be correctly tagged as sRGB, so that isn't the problem. However, I'm wondering if you somehow used that profile incorrectly somewhere else. For example, when you go to the color preferences in PS, the drop down menu for RGB working space contains many output device choices (incl. softproofing profiles) that should (almost) NEVER be used as the working space (see the attached screen grab for the list of choices I see). Is there any chance you might have inadvertently selected your monitor profile as the working space? Then, when you removed your monitor profile, my guess is that PS defaulted to some innocuous profile like sRGB, and all became well again.

Just a thought.

Tom

 

[ibclare]

Excellent. It had to be your PS settings or something. But it didn't make sense. It was your monitor cal by all signs since you saw both un and shifted colors. Glad you found it out. But does that mean I should steer away from the Huey?