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Drawing takes some serious graphics skills, lots of Photoshop enthusiasts have no drawing skills. That does not mean they are not professional. Photoshop is meant as a manipulating graphics tool, for photographers, for hobbyists either way most people use Photoshop enthusiastically or hesitantly. Plug-ins are only a help not a crutch. even plug-ins take some type of skill level. If you know you're plug-in, you know how to manipulate even that.. Skills or lack of is not a competition. I don't know how to drive the space shuttle, but I know how to drive..... either way you get to your destination, it's all a preference as in Photoshop there anyways to arrive to the finish line. Plug-ins is one way of many....

By the way, I checked out this thread because of the title, I was hoping for some icandy :mrgreen: