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Vafann

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Evil is a scapegoat

I can´t stand it anymore, I can´t stand hearing the bu**** spoken by so called devout religious people.

I can´t stand hearing the bu**** spoken by society.

A child is molested, the world screams vengeance and death to the molester, religious people scream of evil, there is nothing worse than the monsters that do these things. They deserve death, they deserve an eye for an eye.

Innocent children are very important, they need to be protected.

What happens when an innocent child fails to be protected? What happens if no one notices the abuse?

What happens when these innocent children grow up?

They do what they are taught.

They abuse as they have been abused, they hate as they have been hated.

Good Christians scream “Kill them! They are evil! Off with their heads!”

It makes me sick, people use the term evil as a scapegoat for their own dirty thoughts. Something else to blame.

God did not create evil, therefore it cannot exist, and if you believe in evil, you don´t believe in God.
 
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are you basically saying religious people are hypocrites? sorry i may be acting very dumb. what brought that on out of interest?
 
Zeealex said:
are you basically saying religious people are hypocrites? sorry i may be acting very dumb. what brought that on out of interest?
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You are not acting dumb at all. I was thinking among other things about what happened to you, and how doing what someone did to you, revenge, some people seem to think that is the solution. I think it will only perpetuate war.
 
I must say Vafann that I am having some difficulty following this post. But the last sentence, your reasoning that since evil exist that God cannot? If this was true it would be saying that good cannot exist because evil does. And I think you and I both know that good does exist. Surely you see good in this world somewhere. I guess then I could make the statement that evil can't exist because good does. You would say that I am blind and crazy. If you are going to follow this route in your thinking then you have to be able to apply the same logic in the opposite direction.

The LORD has made everything for its own purpose,
Even the wicked for the day of evil. (Proverbs 16:4 NASB)
 
Stric9 said:
I must say Vafann that I am having some difficulty following this post. But the last sentence, your reasoning that since evil exist that God cannot? If this was true it would be saying that good cannot exist because evil does. And I think you and I both know that good does exist. Surely you see good in this world somewhere. I guess then I could make the statement that evil can't exist because good does. You would say that I am blind and crazy. If you are going to follow this route in your thinking then you have to be able to apply the same logic in the opposite direction.

The LORD has made everything for its own purpose,
Even the wicked for the day of evil. (Proverbs 16:4 NASB)
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I suppose it depends on what premise you have built the thought of God on, if in your mind God is good, and God has created everything, then the concept of evil cannot have been created by God, unless you haven´t made up your mind about what God is, and this just goes to show that people make up God as they go along. As well as they make up Evil. :)
 
yeah, but you have to remember, that their upbringing also dictates their feelings on that, i know it sounds stupid considering what has been going on, but i hate the idea of revenge, because it will just be like an endless tennis rally of hitting eachother and nothing will essentially be resolved, just worsened. I'm going to sort it out in the best way possible. be assured.
but mum isn't evil XD i refused to accept a lift back from her. so it's my fault really.
and god DIDN'T create evil, Lucifer did.
 
Zeealex said:
yeah, but you have to remember, that their upbringing also dictates their feelings on that, i know it sounds stupid considering what has been going on, but i hate the idea of revenge, because it will just be like an endless tennis rally of hitting eachother and nothing will essentially be resolved, just worsened. I'm going to sort it out in the best way possible. be assured.
but mum isn't evil XD i refused to accept a lift back from her. so it's my fault really.
and god DIDN'T create evil, Lucifer did.
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There is no Lucifer sweetie, and nothing is your fault, all things are lessons, and you are passing yours with flying colors. :)
 
Zeealex said:
i was told satan was lucifer once upon a time :P idk :P
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OK. Once upon a time there was God, and God was all there was. God became lonely, and wanted company, and created a mirror image of itself that it called it´s Son.
It named it Lucifer "Light bearer", and the light meant knowledge, it meant understanding, but Lucifer screwed up and started thinking it was "something else", it was special. This is where the Ego was born, and the ego is "evil" the Ego is "the devil", but it is actually nothing but the thought that something that God created, could create itself.
 
you should know that in Swedish, "Va Fan!" means (What the hell!) Vaffan is probably just an abbreviation for the same thing :D
 
The LORD has made everything for its own purpose,
Even the wicked for the day of evil. (Proverbs 16:4 NASB)

Only because some religous nut wrote the story in the first place, it fits in with the whole belief of good over evil concept (turn the other cheek) and all that.
Theres no devil and theres certainly no god out there. Only us and only we can control that.
 
Do you happen to know the odds on what it would have been for the "religous nut" to get just just 48 prophecies right in one man?

On just 48 it is 1 in 10 to the 157th power. (no Im not that smart, found this online by a statistics professor who probably is that smart)

That is approximately the total number of electrons in all the mass of the known universe.

Did you read that?

That's one "lucky" nut.

Now you wanna try for over 324?

I realize that I won't change anyones mind on this subject, but I couldn't just sit by and let that be the last word.
 
You know if a clap my hands out in the woods i always get some guy clap back?
 
I am implying that 'some' people will believe or follow what's in front of them regardless of fact.
What you wrote is nothing more than coincidence wrapped in the thin veil of belief and any conspiracy 'nut' would love to join in on this conversation.

Another little 'fact' for you - every eleventh word in the bible if laid out in a sentence tells the story of 'Jesus' and 'his' little brother.
I am no believer and each to his/her own, but to start casting hoping to catch fish only ends in fisherman's tales.
 
Good cannot exist without Evil. If you believe in God, you must also believe in the constant fight against Evil, which according to the Bible started in the Garden of Eden.

In my belief, God had nothing to do with what happened to Alex (which I use to exemplify all the nasty things we do to each other.) That was the fault of the kids who for some reason gave themselves permission to do it; the parents who did not instill the principles of right and wrong in those kids; in a society that allows it to go unpunished and where the parents and kids are not censored by their neighbors; in rules and regulations with idiotic loopholes.

All of these are manmade. I admit that sometimes it's hard to keep looking for the good in each person....
 
Yeah sometimes the world can be sick, you just got to live with it and do your best to protect the people you know from it.
But I like to look at the world through a more positive angle- That way the downs of life do not affect you as much because usually when you focus on stuff like that it will eat at you and you will be angry all of the time and that is what we all should be avoiding. If everyone in the world was happy it would be a better place, and by happy i mean happiness from things you have obtained morally. Negative thoughts impact the way you act in life, and that's is not always good for your own health, and how you act. Everything you do in life always affects someone else so if everybody could actually remember that then half the crappy things that happen to people would probably halt because everyone would have less weight on their own shoulders.

Just my few cents, do not mean to offend if anybody intercepts it that way.
 
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