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Paul

Paul

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Ok you think i have gone mad, but here in AUSTRALIA, there a retail outlet called Dick Smith, and at the moment hes doing massive deals on all sorts of electrical goods.

I have my eye on the Canon Eos 1000D digital SLR twin lens kit all for $638:mrgreen:

It includes a 18-55mm lens and a 75-300mm lens.

Any good?
 
The kit is perfect for starting out peta does have a point but if you were to look at quality glass with those focal ranges then you are looking at $700 per lens and up.

But you have a nice focal length there 18-66 like a normal camera shoots wide ideal for walking around snapshots etc, and if you are towards the 300 mm end of the telephoto you have great zoom with blurry background providing there is plenty of room between the subject you are taking pics off and the background.

I would say grab it not sure what Australian dollars value is but I am guessing that kit in Sterling would be around £700 - £750.

If you get on well with it and learn to use it properly then nothing is stopping you from buying better Lenses at a later date but dont go out buying it all in 1 go settle down with it and learn to use it, UNless of course they have a good deal on a nice portrait lens with an 1.4 or 1.8 aperature then buy it if you have the cash makes your portraits a lot better.
 
Hoogle is right, I totally agree with buying ( and later upgrading ) 18-55, but I have my doubts concerning 75-300. If this is not a quality lens, it can become just pain you can neither use neither get rid off and it can discourage you from buying a better lens since you do not want two of the same focal lengths. Of course your ( and his ) mileage may vary.
 
[h=4]Product Specifications[/h][TABLE="class: spec-list, width: 700"]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Product Code :[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]XG3075[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Audio info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Sensitivity[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]ISO 100 - 6400[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Battery info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Battery Included[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Battery Low Indicator[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Battery Type[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]LP-E10 Lithium Ion[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Boxed Contents info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Boxed Contents[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]EOS 1100D Camera Body, Lens Cap, EF-S 18-55mm and EF-S 75-300mm, Li-Ion Battery Pack (LP-E10), Battery Charge (LC-E10), Eyecup Ef, Camera Wide Strap EW-200D, Interface Cable, Camera Instruction Manual, EOS DIGITAL Solution Disk and Software Instruction Manual.[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Camera info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Auto Focus[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Camera Effective Pixels (Megapixels)[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]12.2[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Camera Image Size[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Large: 12.20 megapixels (4272 x 2848), Medium: 6.30 megapixels (3088 x 2056), Small 1: 3.40 megapixels (2256 x 1504), Small 2: 2.50 megapixels (1920 x 1280), Small 3: 350,000 pixels (720 x 480), RAW: 12.20 megapixels (4272 x 2848)[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Camera Self Timer[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]2 or 10 sec[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Camera Shooting Modes[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]13 standard modes[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Camera Shooting Speed[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]3 fps[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Camera White Balance[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]6 settings[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Compensation[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]1/3 or 1/2-stop increments (Normal: ±5)[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Exposure[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]1/3 or 1/2-stop increments, Normal: ±5[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Exposure Modes[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]13 standard modes[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Flash[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Flash Control[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]E-TTL II Autoflash[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Focal Length[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]35mm Focal Length Equivalent 1.6X[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Image Sensor[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]CMOS[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Image Sensor Size[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]22.0 x 14.7mm[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Metering Modes[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]Evaluative, Partial, Centre-weighted average[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Metering Segments[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]63 zone TTL full aperture[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Movie Recording[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]1280 x 720: 30/25 fps, Approx17min @ 222MB/min[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Shutter Speed Range[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]1/4000 sec  30, bulb, X-sync 1/200 sec.[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Still Image Format[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]JPG and RAW.[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Tripod Mount[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? View Finder[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Camera Lens info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Camera Lens[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]EF-S 18-55mm and EF-S 75-300mm (non-IS)[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3][/h][/TH]
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[h=4][TABLE="class: spec-list, width: 700"]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Clock info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Time/Date Display[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Connectivity info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Compatible With[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]All EF and EF-S lenses[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? HDMI Out[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]1.0[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Interface[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Hi-Speed USB/ HDMI mini/ Remote control terminal[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Terminals[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]Hi-Speed USB, HDMI mini, Remote control termina and Memory Card Slot.l[/TD]
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[TR="class: grey"]
[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? USB Interface[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]USB 2.0[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Dimension info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Packaged Weight (kg)[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]2.36[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH="align: left"]? Product Dimension Information[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]129.9 (W) x 99.7 (H) x 77.9 (D) mm[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Fabric info[/h][/TH]
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[TR="class: grey"]
[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Product Material Information[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Stainless steel and Plastic[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]General info[/h][/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Coverage[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]0.95[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Filter[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]Primary Colours, APS-C[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Number Of Settings[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]32[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Storage[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]SD/SDHC/SDXC[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Memory info[/h][/TH]
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[TR="class: grey"]
[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Card Type[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]SD, SDHC and SDXC.[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH="align: left"]? Memory Card Slot[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TR]
[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Screen/Display info[/h][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: grey"]
[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Backlight Display[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]Yes[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? Display Type[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]TFT[/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Screen Size (Inch)[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]2.7[/TD]
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[TH="align: left"]? View Finder[/TH]
[TD="align: left"]Yes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Video info[/h][/TH]
[/TR]
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[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Video Recording Quality[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]HD 720p recording.[/TD]
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[TH="colspan: 2, align: left"][h=3]Warranty info[/h][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: grey"]
[TH="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]? Warranty Period[/TH]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6F6F6, align: left"]1 year[/TD]
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The way I see it even if it is a budget version of the canon lens it is basically for free with that kit anyway, And as it is his first real camera (I assume) Then I am sure the results will be stunning compared to the usual point and shoot get a feel for the range etc and find an area of photography you are drawn to ie portraits being a family man I am sure this will be very popular with you, but then if you lean towards close up and macro then your money is best spent on a lens designed for that same as any category really, but the kit bundle is good enough to experiment with to find what you like best, And even the kit lens from any company like canon and Nikon are usually still good quality compared to some retail bundle kits where they will bundle the body with cheap alternative lens. But that said a Taron lens for example will be a lot cheaper then a canon equivalent and still produce just as good quality images.

Lens was 1 of the main favtors I looked at before choosing between Nikon or canon and canon lens are more expensive but when you start looking at specialist ranges they balance out between the 2. I would compare that kit with the Nikon D5100 and see which you like the look and feel off more. probably equal but 1 will have something the other doesnt if you want to record video with it then the canon would get my vote as they are very good for video, If you want to do night photography then Nikon has a better low light focusing system etc.
 
There are camera shops everywhere here, it is a very popular pass time/hobby/job, most of the larger stores are doing the same deal but Dicks is the cheapest, i will be going into the smaller speciality shops as asking for a cheaper price could get me a better price or even the same price but with a tripod or extra cards etc.
Thanks for the info.

Theres also a Nikon outfit (starter pack) for $769 - [h=1]Nikon D3100 14MP Digital SLR Camera (Twin Lens Kit)[/h]

But would that be too high a leap from point and shoots?
I only want it for family and general hobby usage, and my passion for the heavens above.
 
actually nikon d3100 got the best camera of the year award for entry level dslrs out performs many cameras in that price range. Honestly I would ignore being put of by getting a big camera for an amateur as it does not matter if you get an entry level or a Nikon D4, D800 or canon Mk5 mark 3 they will still still have Auto modes with about 20 different scenarios dark, night silouhettes, candle light, etc so no different to a point and shoot just better quality, That said that is the camera telling you what it reccommends so later on once you are comfortable with auto modes then you can move onto the semi manual modes ie aperature priority this is where you can set the aperature say you want a shallow depth of field nice blurry background you set it to the lowest aperature your lens can take, that kit I should imagine 3.5- 5 towards the telephoto end of the 300mm and the camera will adjust the shutter speed using light metering that it senses when focusing.


same as if you choose shutter prioritythe camera will automatically do the rest with some basic over ride functions like exposure compensation etc.

they are not that hard to learn you just need to remember faster shutter speeds so the 1\100th of a second speed is faster than 1\50th of a second there for will let in less light so the image will be darker if youkeep the shutter open for 1 second during daylight you will get a blown out image.

and aperature is all about blurry backgrounds, depth of field etc. 1.4 f is less focused images ideal for portrait f22\ f44 will let in a lot less light make the images darker so not that much different to shutter priority.

Once you are comfortable and only then I would switch it to manual I rarely never shoot in any other mode take a few test shots see if it is to dark if so slow your shutter down and open your aperature and the opposite end if it is to light then then revers what I just said.
 
Paul said:
But would that be too high a leap from point and shoots?
I only want it for family and general hobby usage, and my passion for the heavens above.
Click to expand...

No way, do not worry. You can start to use it the same way, which will give you better results than the old one, and study manual in the meantime. BTW you can download and check manual even now. The more functions and manual ( as opposed to automatic ) functions you use, the better result for you.
 
Hi Paul,
this is a compact, which makes it a huge difference, so in quality as future use. If you decide to buy a new one this one is useless. Not only because it leaves you empty handed, but also the price drops in the meantime and there are new models you cannot sell it anymore. If you buy SLR as your original plan, Canon EOS 1000D, you can later buy a new body and, providing you stay with Canon, you can still use your lenses. Also you can keep all your equipment and add one or more lenses depending on what you would use your camera for. But with compact you are stuck with its original design and cannot change anything.
From their comparison ( http://www.dpreview.com/products/co...cts=panasonic_dmcfz47&products=canon_eos1000d ) I see Canon is older, but it has RAW format ( I would never buy camera without raw format, but that is just me, although I think it also shows something about how seriously was it designed ), Panasonic does not have hot-shoe for external flash and its 9.5m built-in is a bit weak, it does not have remote shutter control, so no very long exposures.
I am no way saying stay away of it, all I am saying make the educated decision while being aware of all these facts.
Cheers,
Peter
 
Hi Peta.

Thanks for the realistic words and knowledge base.
I will be going with my original choice of the Canon as it is my first choice with a good name and i think it is a good price for a quality starter kit.
Thanks again for showing me what's what in the camera world.
I would also like to add i don't really want to add any more to the purchase price as it will be solely for recreational usage and my love of star gazing, i cannot wait to get clicking.
 
Oh that's amazing mate, i was looking at that very same camera prior to the one i started the thread with because of the sale price.
Thanks again.
 
Yeah i understand that mate, and thanks for the insight into lens quality and usage.
 
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