Create layer in Raw radial filter

[db roberts]

Hi
In a smart object, if I right click I get an option to 'create layer'. This allows me to edit the change I have made, whatever that might be. Is it possible to do this in Raw, radial filter? What I want to do is, if I create a nice ellipse of light this way, can have it isolated as a layer so I can adjust it later without returning to Raw. The reason I would like to do this is because if I have already changed the image in Basic in Raw, I seem to lose the ability to isolate any radian adjustment I have made.

Am amateur hobbyist.

 

[IamSam]

In a smart object,

Please define. You're referring to a SO layer or in a PSB document created by double clicking a SO????

if I right click I get an option to 'create layer'.

On a SO layer, there is no option to "create layer" if you right click the layer or on the document widow itself.
In a PSB document, there is no option to "create layer" if you right click the layer or on the document widow itself.
What are you right clicking on? Please post screenshots if possible.

This allows me to edit the change I have made, whatever that might be.

Not sure how you are getting to this point. Please post screenshots if possible.

Is it possible to do this in Raw, radial filter?

Once converted to a SO, you can edit the object in the PSB file with an ACR smart filter............this will ask you to convert the object within the SO into it's own SO.

Layers in a PSB file (SO)...

 

[db roberts]

Hi,

Thanks for replying. I've attached a shot. Layer in question is 'car shadow'. It has 'fx' at the edge and when I right click I get an option to 'create layer'. I can then edit the drop shadow effect independently of the layer it's on. What I wanted to find out was, is there a way to access raw filter effects, once you've applied them (In my case, radial filter) as an independent layer so I can edit the effect created by the raw filter independently of the original layer? When I use the radial filter, I get the effect I want, click OK but then cannot edit that new effect on its own, so far.

 

[IamSam]

It has 'fx' at the edge and when I right click I get an option to 'create layer'. I can then edit the drop shadow effect independently of the layer it's on.

Ahhhhh....yes! Thanks for clarifying!

What I wanted to find out was, is there a way to access raw filter effects, once you've applied them (In my case, radial filter) as an independent layer so I can edit the effect created by the raw filter independently of the original layer?

If I'm understanding you correctly, yes. Just convert the new drop shadow layer (created when you hit "create layer") into a SO and add the ACR smart filter. Afterwards, you should be able to edit at anytime.

Drop shadow in layer style (fx)


Drop Shadow removed from layer style using right click and choosing "create layer", then converted to SO...


Drop Shadow SO PSB doc, converted to SO with ACR smart filter added.

 

[db roberts]

Hi

Thanks again for taking the time to help with this. We're not quite there yet so I hope you won't mind if I push a little further. The effect I showed as an example was the drop shadow option, which I get to after I double click the layer I want to add a DS to. However, I'm wanting to just use ACR radial filter directly on a different SO (1.jpg). I had expected that, once I had applied the ACR on the SO (the main object in the composite, 1.jpg), I would be able to right click at the edge of the layer and see 'create layer'. But when I add radial filter in ACR, the layer has the bit at the edge with the down arrow to right click on (2.jpg), but 'create layer' doesn't appear as an option. Many others do, but not the one that lets me work on the actual radial effect I had created.

 

[IamSam]

I had expected that, once I had applied the ACR on the SO (the main object in the composite, 1.jpg), I would be able to right click at the edge of the layer and see 'create layer'. But when I add radial filter in ACR, the layer has the bit at the edge with the down arrow to right click on (2.jpg), but 'create layer' doesn't appear as an option. Many others do, but not the one that lets me work on the actual radial effect I had created.

OK, let me go back to some basics so we are both on the same page.

When you create a layer style (fx), in this case a drop shadow. All effects are contained within one component, the layer style.



By right clicking the fx icon/symbol and choosing "create layer", all you are doing is breaking down the effects within the layer style into individual layers. In this case the drop shadow.


So now we have the drop shadow from the previous layer style on it's own layer. The layer style is now gone.


The "create layer" function is exclusive to a layer that has an applied layer style only! The only layer icon/symbol that allows you to "create layer" are the ones with this fx symbol..


All the other icon/symbols are not associated to a component (such as a layer style) that contain multiple layers that can be separated.



Now that we have the drop shadow from the previously existing layer style on it's own layer, we can treat it as we would any other layer including converting it to a smart object.


Now that it's a smart object, we can double click the smart object and open a PSB document directly associated to the smart object and edit. Or we can add a smart filter that can be double clicked and edited. OR....we can now convert the drop shadow layer into yet another smart object (smart object within a smart object) and add smart filters including ACR. Depends on how you want the workflow to go.

 

[IamSam]

IN JPG1, you have what appears to be a selection of the car........layer 26.

Convert layer 26 into a smart object and add a ACR smart filter. Make any adjustment with any tool within ACR including the Radial filter. Close ACR.

This smart object with the ACR smart filter layer should now be completely editable from there. Just double click on the ACR smart filter, select the Radial filter and you will see all of your previously made adjustments are still there! You can edit these adjustments. Close ACR.

If you want to have a completely new smart object layer with a completely different smart filter (Radial filter tool), just duplicate layer 26, from the duplicated layer, drag and drop the existing smart filter to the trash, right click and rasterize the layer. Right click and convert back to a smart object. Add the ACR smart filter and edit with the Radial filter tool. This will give you a completely new adjustment in addition to the older existing adjustment.

 

[db roberts]

Holy Moly. Thanks so much for this support. My first mistake was conjoining fx and ACR in my head. I think everything else I concluded came from that basis mistake. Thank you both very much.

 

[IamSam]

Holy Moly. Thanks so much for this support.

You're very welcome!

Thank you both very much.

You're still welcome from both me and myself! LOL!!