Copy & Paste (Offset)

[Sark]

Hi all.

In PS6 when I copy & paste a selected section of image it doesn't paste into its original position, instead it is offset a short distance.

I could work around this in the same document but, I'm trying to paste into a duplicate (different colour mode) document.

Can't find any options for this in prefs.

Any advice?

Thanks

Sark

 

[nitrobutler]

I'm not sure I got the question right, Are you attempting to copy and paste within the same document? If so there's better ways of duplicating an object.
If your copying from one Doc. and transfering to another, have you tried using the marquree tools to indicate where you want the object to go then, instead of paste use "Paste Into" Command. This way you can use the "Move" tool to adjust the object within the selection.
Hope this helps \:]

 

[Sark]

Hi

What I'm trying to do is select a part of the image from one document and paste it into another document in the same position.

The second document is a duplicate of the first so this should be possible, theoretically.

If I'm taking the face from one document, and pasting it into another, I don't want to align it using the move tool or keys, it should be possible to ensure it pastes in the same position.

Also, when is the "paste into" command available. I can't remember seeing this.

Thanks for replying

Sark

 

[Welles]

Sark,

For the info you wish to move, I assume you have it selected? How about just make a new layer via copy and then drag the new layer and drop it on top of the other image while holding down the Shift Key?

See if that works for you.

 

[Sark]

Hi again.

Nitrobutler...I'm now back at my own PC. The "paste into" command is available when you make a selection but, even if I create a marquee selection that is the same rectangle size as the image, the "paste into" still offsets.

I can do it by saving an alpha channel of my original selection, drag this to the new document, then when I load a selection from this alpha channel, the "paste into" command will align perfectly. Of course, Welles method is much simpler.

Welles...Yes, thats works perfectly. Tried drag & drop but wasn't aware of the shift key method.

Thanks for the replies they're much appreciated.

Sark

 

[MindBender]

When you drag a layer and hold the shift key, it centers the dragged object in the middle of the new document. If you want something to appear exactly where you had it originally, you want to "duplicate" the layer. Go to the contextual menu in the layers palette with the layer selected (that little arrow at the upper right of the layers palette) and choose "duplicate". When the dialogue window pops up you will have a choice of what location you want, choose the new document's name (it already has to be open also) and click okay. It will make a copy of that layer, but in the new document with the objects on the layer exactly where they were in the old document.

Hope that helps.

 

[Welles]

When you drag a layer and hold the shift key, it centers the dragged object in the middle of the new document.

This may be a semantic quibble but...

When you drag a layer and hold the shift key it centers the layer in the middle of the new document. I think 'object' is a confusing term in this discussion as the layer Sark will be dropping will have a great deal of transparency around a visible 'object.' When dragging and dropping the transparency is part of the layer.

I suggested that he create a new layer of his selected area via Layer > New via Copy so he would be dragging a layer.The visible part of the dragged layer will line up exactly because the whole layer will be centered on a copy of the original image. Hey, it works!

 

[MindBender]

as the layer Sark will be dropping will have a great deal of transparency around a visible 'object.' When dragging and dropping the transparency is part of the layer.

bzzzt.. wrong answer. Thanks for playing. hehe. If you create a new transparent layer and then shift-drag that layer onto another document, the portion of the layer that has pixels are then centered in the new document. The transparency is ignored by photoshop. So in actuality, the pixel object itself is what is centered, not the layer. Either way, you will have something that centers, which I don't believe is what he's looking to do. The duplication method isn't quite as convenient, but it does a much better job of placement of the object.

 

[Welles]

bzzzt.. wrong answer. Thanks for playing. hehe.

Well Monty, either your fact checkers got their info wrong or my Photoshop works differently than your Photoshop. \:]

Try this...create an image, make a colored shape anywhere off-centered. Rasterize the shape. Duplicate the image. Change the shape's color in the duplicate. Drag the changed color shape layer from the duplicate onto the original while holding down the shift key and they will exactly overlap when dropped. I've been using this technique for many years and it has been the same as long as I remember.

 

[MindBender]

Well Monty, either your fact checkers got their info wrong or my Photoshop works differently than your Photoshop.

Well... that's what I get for sending you off the show with a copy of our home game! hehe

Okay... we're both half right. hehe. I figured out where the problem lies.

You're working on two documents that have the exact same size... I'm not. heh

If you have two documents that are 640x480 and you shift drag, your layer appears in the same place in that document. If you have on that's 640x480 and another that's, say, 800x600 and you shift drag, the transparency is ignored and it's centered.

Unfortunately duplicating doesn't solve that issue, so you'd have to position by hand.

The short answer is:

If you work with two documents that are exactly the same pixel dimensions, either method will position the object correctly where it was. If you are working with documents that are different, you will have to use manual positioning for the object (or some creative layer tricks like playing with canvas sizes ).

Tag, you're it! heheh

 

[Welles]

Aha! (Aye...there's the rub...)

Yep, I was working on two identical image sizes because those were the terms of the original question.

Glad that confusion is over, now all I have to face is the new day. [saywhat]

 

[Sark]

Well Hey, Hey, Hey.

I go away for two days and 7 new posts appear.

And heres the rub. Your both wrong, 8} You don't have to duplicate a layer. Just select, Shift drag & drop and the selection is correctly positioned in the new document, "and" the selection remains in the old document. Shift dragging & dropping automatically creates a duplicate.

I win...Is it a cash prize?

Sark

 

[Welles]

The prize is behind Door #3!



(P.S. That's a great tip. I never tried or knew that!)

 

[MindBender]

And heres the rub. Your both wrong,...

Me? "wrong"?? It is to laugh! :lol::lol:

Glad you got things worked out.