Cat Alone

[ugur]

This time i used a picture taken by me and added a stock cat to it.
Cat : https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5595/14686491929_eb9e120cd6_b.jpg

 

[MrToM]

Unless its me, that's just too dark to see anything.....no colour profile either I notice.

For anyone else struggling, unless it really IS just me...



If its intentionally that dark then its a bit of a waste of time, otherwise I'd suggest a monitor re-cal.

Regards.
MrToM.

 

[ugur]

I will recompose it in the recommended way. I neither have information nor have equipment for monitor recalibration but i try to look at results with as many devices as i can. Thanks for advices.

 

[MrToM]

No worries.....but I wouldn't be too quick to change anything just yet....as I said, It may be me.

I'd wait to see if any other members find it dark too....if so then you may have a problem.

If not......then I may have a problem.

Regards.
MrToM.

 

[ugur]

Placing the cat in a lighter background would help i think and right rail may be a better choice. Left one has a dark background and a dark cat is hard to see even though i highlighted the outer lines of the cat.

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[Tom Mann]

Dear Ugur - MrToM's comment that the incredible darkness of this image suggests that your monitor may need to be calibrated is very much in line with your previous posting in which you dramatically darkened a photo that was already perfectly exposed. In.a few minutes, I'm going to post a test image. It contains a series of vertical bars that are equally spaced in brightness. If you can't see all the bars, or u can't distinguish one bar from the next, or if several of the brighter bars are washed out, then u have a problem with your monitor or laptop screen -- basically this means that it is misleading you and causing you to make poor editing decisions.

Tom M

PS - give me a few minutes to find the file and post it.

 

[ugur]

Thank you for your reply. Is brightness contrast calibration easier than color calibration ? I confused them maybe.

 

[Tom Mann]

Hi Ugur - Sorry for the delay. I couldn't immediately find my old step wedge test image. Anyway, if you can't clearly distinguish all 20 different steps then you have a serious problem. To answer your question about grayscale tonal calibration (which you called brightness-contrast) vs full color calibration, yes, the first is easier, and, if absolutely necessary, might be done using only the brightness and contrast controls on your monitor, but I don't know of any serious user of Photoshop who does only this.

HTH,

Tom M

 

[Tom Mann]

PS - FYI, and to answer MrToM's request for confirmation from other PSG members, I have a high end, hardware-calibrated, fully color managed system, and on it, your cat-on-the-tracks was just barely visible. It was much too dark.

 

[ugur]

This one should be better ? Also thanks for all your informations you gave.

 

[IamSam]

Great photo.

The cat however, looks to be distorted. It's leaning in an unnatural manner (white line shows angle of lean).
I feel like the cat would be more perpendicular to the track.

Also, I realize that the telephone poles can lean on their own in nature, and this may be the case in this photo, but that one pole is somewhat distracting....for me anyways.

 

[Tom Mann]

It's certainly better with the cat on that side, but it's still quite dark. For example, if printed in large quantities for a newspaper advertisement the cat probably still would not be seen. The problem is that we can't tell if that degree of darkness is your intention, or u are seeing something considerably brighter on your screen, and that is how u want us to see it.

So, the question is, how many sections could u clearly distinguish on the 20 step gray wedge?

Tom M

 

[ugur]

It's certainly better with the cat on that side, but it's still quite dark. For example, if printed in large quantities for a newspaper advertisement the cat probably still would not be seen. The problem is that we can't tell if that degree of darkness is your intention, or u are seeing something considerably brighter on your screen, and that is how u want us to see it.

So, the question is, how many sections could u clearly distinguish on the 20 step gray wedge?

Tom M

Tom, in gray scales i can see and distinguish all of them. Other colors are also fine except blues. Darkest blues are indistinguisable.

I think the problem is with cat stock becouse if i increase the luminosity of cat it look somewhat unnatural comparing to other parts of picture. I try to hide details and which couses trouble. Its a bad attempt to solve bad manipulation technique

My monitor is not top notch but it is ok
for my budget. Simple calibration seems ok but of course not hardware calibrated . Learned more about the concepts, thak you for your information.

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[ugur]

Great photo.

The cat however, looks to be distorted. It's leaning in an unnatural manner (white line shows angle of lean).
I feel like the cat would be more perpendicular to the track.

Also, I realize that the telephone poles can lean on their own in nature, and this may be the case in this photo, but that one pole is somewhat distracting....for me anyways.

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I tried to align perspective of cat to rail but i think i should do better. That telephone pole is leaned by nature.

Thank you for your good words about original photo. I like photography alot but it requires lots of outdoor travel. Thats why i use photoshop for manipulation as its mostly indoor activity. By this way i can work both indoor and outdoor as a hobby.

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