Can someone help with my Throwback thursday pic

[ttwarrior1]

Im new here but if your not sure what throwback thursday is. Well its big on facebook or at least in my area.
I have a old baseball pic i want to post and tag them on facebook tommorrow if anyone sees this in time, thanks





Im not sure why its small in here but its bigger on my computer. Im not sure what im asking. Maybe take away the glare or do whatever u think is best i guess. This pic was from 1984 i believe.

 

[ttwarrior1]

I notice it looks better on my photobucket pic and not so good in here. Someone has alot of work to do with this one, ouch




here is my 4th grade pic if anyone can help with this one. I know im new here and I promise I'll be a regular member. If you would of told me I would be joining photo forums I would of told you no way. Now that I have a vid recorder, ipad, etc. Im becoming an addict as far as taking pics . Im still learning

 

[besmirched]

Are these pictures of printed photos taken by a phone?

 

[ttwarrior1]

by my ipad

 

[Paul]

Played within the RGB ranges then did a skew to bring the image into correct alignment.

 

[Tom Mann]

Suggestion: Learn how to take a good photo instead of shooting in whatever situation happens to be convenient (and which might save you a few seconds), but then being forced to spend vastly more time trying to fix the resulting poor photo after the fact in Photoshop.

The results of the former will always be vastly better than the latter, even if you eventually become the world's expert in PS.

In this case, your main problem was weak, off-color, indoor light. To reproduce this page, I would have started by either:

a) scanning the page;
b) re-photographing the yearbook page outside on a bright, sunny day; or,
c) re-photographing the page indoors but placing several (ie, more than two) bright table lamps symmetrically around it.

(a) would have been your best option; (b) second best; and (c) my last choice, but any of these would have been better than what you did.

If you know that PS work is going to be done on an image, I would always work on (or post) a full resolution version of the image, not some tiny, down rez'ed version like you did.

I rarely do freebies, and certainly not repeat or frivolous requests, but this seemed like a good "teaching moment" for photography.

Enjoy!

Tom

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[Paul]

Looks really blue here Tom almost tungsten in appearance mate:question:

 

[Tom Mann]

Thanks for the observation, Paul, but the eyedropper tool tells me that just about everywhere in my tweaked version of this image, the light gray background is within a point or two of RGB = 243, 243, 244. That's about as perfectly color balanced as one can get.

When I put the eyedropper on the backgrounds in back of the kids, the green channel does look a bit low, but I think that's the way the picture really was.

When I measure the skin tones on the central kids, what I see is very close to the standard guideline:
The yellow should be 5%-10% higher than the magenta value, and cyan should be around one half of the average of m&y. Black should show in shadow areas only.

The major difference I see is that the yellows in my skin tones is about equal to the magenta values, not the 5-10% higher as stated by the guideline.

So, I'm sorry, but the numbers don't lie and I don't see any evidence of a blue shift either in the highlights, shadows or skin tones.

T

 

[Tom Mann]

BTW, ttwarrior, here's an example of the excellent color balance and sharpness you can get from an iPhone taking a photo of a small document (business card sized) in bright, but soft window light. Note, this image is in color, not B&W - the iPhone is capable of excellent color balance if there is enough light (of good quality) present.

T

 

[iDad]

Tom, did you actually just praise the iPhone camera? lol

 

[ttwarrior1]

thanks i guess, but i believe i edited these 2 pics better on photobucket, reds one looks same and smaller
I can't see the faces in the school pic

I took the pic of them with my ipad as they are in the photo album and mom has all 4 corners stapled . I guess ill take the staples out and go somewhere and scan it. No clue how to do that. Rite aid or wal mart i guess

 

[Tom Mann]

The pixel dimensions of my tweaked version of your yearbook shot is *EXACTLY* the same as the dimensions of the photo you posted, so if it's hard to see the faces in your posted version, it will be equally hard to see them in my version.

The small size is exactly why I said, "If you know that PS work is going to be done on an image, I would always work on (or post) a full resolution version of the image, not some tiny, down rez'ed version like you did.".

With respect to thinking about removing the staples and scanning it, before you do that, why don't you do what I said in (b) and take the album outside into bright daylight and shoot it again. This time, post the full rez photo, and I can almost guarantee that you'll be much happier with the results.

T

PS - @iDad ))

 

[iDad]

Retina display is totally amazing! Just sayin. Just got an Apple Mac air version total other world or way to look at graphics. Incredible!

 

[Paul]

Geeky old fart

 

[iDad]

:mrgreen: d'Oench you know it

 

[Paul]

 

[ttwarrior1]

was hoping someone else could show the pics, that pic size is what it does when i click the insert image link.

 

[ttwarrior1]

its been snowing and ice storm here. Been reading up on alot of posts. Good info here but Im still a rookie. I don't even understand half of the words people are using

 

[Tom Mann]

Hi TTW - It sounds like you are concerned about the fact that you can't see as much detail as you expected in the version of the image you posted. This is what we mean by "low resolution". The resolution is normally expressed as the "pixel dimensions", ie, the number of pixels in the horizontal and vertical directions of the image. Multiply the two numbers and divide by 1 million, and you have the resolution as expressed in Megapixels.

The resolution of the camera on the iPad depends on which model you have. The latest models have 5 Mpixel rear cameras. That should be good enough to easily see considerable facial detail on a yearbook photo like yours. So, my guess is that you either have a very old iPad, or you inadvertently did something to the pictures between when they came out of your iPad and when you uploaded them here.

So, if you tell us which model iPad you have, what settings you used on the camera, and what *exactly* did you do to the resulting file before you posted it on here, we will likely be able to help you.

Cheers,

Tom M

 

[Paul]

Put it in simple terms, if you redraw a drawing with a pencil but you use your left hand even though you are right handed it will always - ALWAYS come out nothing like the original:mrgreen: