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A few random Photos from my new camera.


Zeealex

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as promised.

I am really impressed with the image quality coming out of this camera, i am absolutely amazed. definately a few up from my kodak.

these photos are just a few of the good photos.

1)
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2)
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3)
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4)
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look closely and you can see the cracks in my wall's paint (something my old kodak was never able to pick up)
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and of course, we can't forget sir laurels:
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Camera to Camera comparison:
this was the best image quality i could get out of my Kodak camera on a close up of moving fish in my tank. (it's not dead)
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and this is the average image quality i got out of the pentax on several much faster moving fish
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Feel Free to comment on any of the photos. I've numbered the non comparison ones for your convenience.

Oh Mum decided on impulse that we were going to have a christmas BBQ this year, i know, random.
 
You have some good groundwork equipment there I would learn a bit more about exposure compensation though I am assuming your using auto modes to begin with

but with that said most of it can be done now via photoshop\lightroom.

pic 1 for example is great but even greater with a levels adjustment. to compensate for the slightly over exposed. However not sure who is having a BBQ at this time of year lol.
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are we talking about the high saturation here? that's because i accidentally had it in the "food" scene mode. XD i'm generally in manual mode these days believe it or not i prefer the control over the shutter speed and aperature.

so lower the levels a bit?
 
no in the flame image for example you have slightly over exposed the image making it slightly flat.

Either speed up your shutter speed or lower you aperature and possibly iso as well it is borderline noisey when I looked at it but that could be just the compression you have used. The shutter is open to long hence letting a lot of light in hence slightly over exposing the pic. You may be able to correct this with exposure compensation by taking it to -1 stop or maybe even -0.5 if your camera supports half stops.

It will take you a while before you realise what aperature and shutter speeds you need for certain light and subjects I reccomend go out take all your pictures in aperature priority mode and let the camera adjust the shutter for you but pay attention to it. for a while then once your comfortable getting that done and getting evenly well balanced pictures then reverse it and go out in shutter priority mode watching what the camera sets the aperature at.

once you are comfortable with both modes and learn what difference each mode settings do on each setting then you will really be able to take advantage off manual mode.
 
i've tried editing the levels on photoshop, but i'm not sure if it's any better could do with more level edits.
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i'll speed up the shutter speed next time, i think the camera supports half stops i'll try it out later in auto mode.

and thanks for the tips about how to learn how the camera should be adapted, i just can't keep the shots steady at slower shutter speed so i tend to use manual mode to open up the aperature and speed up the shutter. i'm usually using flash with shutter speed 1/125 and the aperature at F8.0 it seems to work pretty well indoors. but i've got a tripod now, so i can keep the shot steady.

P.S the noise is my fault, i forgot to turn the ISO down.
 
Create an adjustment levels layer and then using the histogram move the blacks in slightly makes them richer and brings out the flame details more. your 2nd version is a lot better but could still do with the blacks being bought up a notch to really show of the flames. This would be 1 of the exceptions of an even looking histogrm.

As photographers we try and get even balanced histograms to show an evenly lit photo however rules are there to be broken and in circumstances like tis where the focus is on the flames you want them to be sharp rich and full of detail like the grill.
 
thanks for that tip and info Imac, i'll keep the histogram on live view now.

@hoogle, your advice is proving very useful, and the camera shows it can go up or down 0.3 stops
 
I would recomend that you use the viewfinder to aim and focus your shots live view can sometimes mis interperate what the lens is seeing if you are suggesting that you are aiming through the live view or do you mean just have a function in your camera displaying the histogram. You will find most dslr have a highlight\lowlight warning very useful function. you should enable it so that when you take your photo when you get that preview it will usually flash white in areas where they are over exposed and are pure white meaning it has taken the picture however parts of the picture has no recorded data as it is to over exposed usually bright lights skies etc they will flash white telling you the camera has only recorded plain white and no image data

and then it will also have the function of flashing black where there was not enough light in your scene and the only data recorded was black so no texture.

if you are shooting in raw format some data can be recovered in raw conversion. But if your highlights\lowlghts warnings are coming up it has no data to recover.

I always shoot in Raw + Jpeg fine so that way I can just plug in my memory card to my pc and have a quick scan and copy over the jpegs that I like to 1 folder then open up adobe bridge to view the raw files where you can rank your pictures and discard the 1s you dont like.

my personal ranking system for adobe bridge
5 star very little work possibly white balance touch up temperature or minor exposure\ contrast\ sharpening but overall a keeper picture

4 star needs general all round work but has potential to be a great picture

3 star needs raw conversion and a lot of adjustment and then imported into photoshop for editing such as object removal blemish touch up etc to make it a really good picture

2 Star is from the camera it will be a throw away picture but will use it to maybe add a lot of editing and special efffects and filters to.

1 star these will be boring flat pictures not a lot of character but not written off yet maybe go for a new crop black and white conversion or a colour tone. and possibly set up for HDR image and get to play with whatever filters I favour for that period and sometimes just go crazy and have fun

Any pictures that dont get a star are throw away images

the advantage of this system is that you can then categorise the pictures by your ratings and put them in there own folders I have a folder called to process and develop with 5 sub folders with 1 star 2 star 3 star 4 star and 5 star that way I know straight away what needs to be done and depending on how much time I have depends which folder I attack to process. I can go out in 1 session and take a 1000 images possible edit about 100 and only keep about 5-10 of good 1s and some you just dont know if you can make them good until after you have edited them just to still decide you do not like them

But please dont think just because you have gone a whole day of taking pictures with a good camera that they should all be good because I guarentee you that they wont and it will be a long time until you develop a style and know what shots work for you. Even so will not guarentee great images every time.

My big tip is from the raw control panel before opening it up in photoshop at the bottom you have blue text that looks like it is a link on a website click that and select the option open in photoshop as a smart object that way when you are editing in photoshop you can just double click the smart object and it will open it in the raw processing panel again to tweak settings you can not do this without the smart object so all your editing in photoshop can be a waste of time if you decide you need to fix some earlier issues and you will end up deleting it to start again.

I hope that helps you.
 
Small steps young Jedi it is a big learning curve now when you get to know your camera you will be throwing out pictures in a matter of miniutes in the development stage even quicker if you have lightroom
 
I would recomend that you use the viewfinder to aim and focus your shots live view can sometimes mis interperate what the lens is seeing if you are suggesting that you are aiming through the live view or do you mean just have a function in your camera displaying the histogram. You will find most dslr have a highlight\lowlight warning very useful function. you should enable it so that when you take your photo when you get that preview it will usually flash white in areas where they are over exposed and are pure white meaning it has taken the picture however parts of the picture has no recorded data as it is to over exposed usually bright lights skies etc they will flash white telling you the camera has only recorded plain white and no image data

and then it will also have the function of flashing black where there was not enough light in your scene and the only data recorded was black so no texture.

if you are shooting in raw format some data can be recovered in raw conversion. But if your highlights\lowlghts warnings are coming up it has no data to recover.

I always shoot in Raw + Jpeg fine so that way I can just plug in my memory card to my pc and have a quick scan and copy over the jpegs that I like to 1 folder then open up adobe bridge to view the raw files where you can rank your pictures and discard the 1s you dont like.

my personal ranking system for adobe bridge
5 star very little work possibly white balance touch up temperature or minor exposure\ contrast\ sharpening but overall a keeper picture

4 star needs general all round work but has potential to be a great picture

3 star needs raw conversion and a lot of adjustment and then imported into photoshop for editing such as object removal blemish touch up etc to make it a really good picture

2 Star is from the camera it will be a throw away picture but will use it to maybe add a lot of editing and special efffects and filters to.

1 star these will be boring flat pictures not a lot of character but not written off yet maybe go for a new crop black and white conversion or a colour tone. and possibly set up for HDR image and get to play with whatever filters I favour for that period and sometimes just go crazy and have fun

Any pictures that dont get a star are throw away images

the advantage of this system is that you can then categorise the pictures by your ratings and put them in there own folders I have a folder called to process and develop with 5 sub folders with 1 star 2 star 3 star 4 star and 5 star that way I know straight away what needs to be done and depending on how much time I have depends which folder I attack to process. I can go out in 1 session and take a 1000 images possible edit about 100 and only keep about 5-10 of good 1s and some you just dont know if you can make them good until after you have edited them just to still decide you do not like them

But please dont think just because you have gone a whole day of taking pictures with a good camera that they should all be good because I guarentee you that they wont and it will be a long time until you develop a style and know what shots work for you. Even so will not guarentee great images every time.

My big tip is from the raw control panel before opening it up in photoshop at the bottom you have blue text that looks like it is a link on a website click that and select the option open in photoshop as a smart object that way when you are editing in photoshop you can just double click the smart object and it will open it in the raw processing panel again to tweak settings you can not do this without the smart object so all your editing in photoshop can be a waste of time if you decide you need to fix some earlier issues and you will end up deleting it to start again.

I hope that helps you.
that is very good advice there Imac! my Camera switches live view off and opens the viewfinder as i focus the camera, i've turned the light and dark areas on, so overexposed areas flash red and underexposed areas flash yellow. and the histogram is in the lower right of my screen, i only use live view to as a sort of guide apart from that.

As for the Star Ratings, that is a pretty amazing thing to do, i might try that in a minute actually see where i get.

But please dont think just because you have gone a whole day of taking pictures with a good camera that they should all be good because I guarentee you that they wont and it will be a long time until you develop a style and know what shots work for you. Even so will not guarentee great images every time.
i was aware of that when i bought the camera, a guy on another forum said the same, the camera doesn't make the photos look good, the person behind it does. people must think i bought the camera thinking that i would automatically take professional looking photos XD. no, the main reason i got is was because I felt the need to expand my learning abilities, i wasn't going to get far with a limited capability point and shoot with a defective sensor, slow to respond buttons, slow shutter and a water damaged lens. so i researched the options, the original idea was a bridge camera by fujifilm, but that idea soon turned into a Nikon D3100 then i researched more, and found the underdog, Pentax K-r. after seeing it was the fastest entry level camera on the market with the highest ISO Range, i thought it was perfect for me, it felt the best in my hand compared to the 2 top dogs, so i got it. glad i did now, i don't see the hype in Canon or Nikon.

I don't think I'm quite ready to Shoot RAW yet, i think my memory card is too small, i have about a month to wait before any money comes in to get a bigger SD card and my bridge doesn't want to work because i'm using Linux and Wine can't register that it's wanting to open.

@hoogle, i agree, slow and steady wins the race. i'll ask mum about lightroom, she might be able to get it for me, no promises though.
 
it is good for mass processing images and has the ability to upload directly to facebook\ flickr etc.

There is a reason there is hype behind Nikon and Canon they do take exceptionally good pictures when used right of course and I promise you now if you ever get really serious into photography 1 day you will upgrade to Nikon or canon possibly not for better image quality but mnore the flexibility they offer with add on products 3rd party products etc.

I tend to find that your first camera is your learning curve camera and then when you come to upgrade it then you will choose the make you like the look of when you understand how photography works more it may be that pentax offers you the picture quality you like. and you stick with it but your next camera will be your first real serious camera and there is a 90 % chance on whatever make you choose then you will stick to for the rest of your life. all nikons function the same if you know your way around 1 and how it works you will be able to pick up any nikon and use it the same as any other make so we like familiarity does not mean every nikon camera is the same picture quality etc I am referring to navigation etc.

but 10 years ago pentax really wouldnt have competed with nikon or canon but now the market is open the technology inside is all similar these days so in a year or 2 or even 10 when you swap your camera then maybe pentax will be also a market leader.

I am tempted though to get a high end canon all hough I love nikon I wouldnt mind trying filming stuff with a canon as they are better for filming. you never know I may fall in love with it and switch to canon.
 
And yes I am putting a lot of thought into it as my next camera will be a top end 1 so if I buy canon you are limited to canon unless you have money to spare because by the time you get all your extra kit and lenses you dont want to have to keep buying it again if you switch to nikon eventually though I will be running a high end nikon and a high end canon.
 
definitely ask mum about lightroom.

i don't like canon DSLRs i tried one out and it just felt weird, something wasn't right. i got put off by the Nikon because my english teacher told me she didn't like it much. but the pentax felt perfect and, to me, performed better than the canon EOS 1000D i tried out, so unless something goes terribly wrong with this pentax, that i find is down to bad build quality, i'll stick with Pentax they are slightly more conveniently priced, and at least i know i'm not paying for the word on the top of the camera.
 
well that is the most important thing is discovering what your comfortable with dont take anyones word for things though you have to try it out for yourself. I think at the moment the top 3 cameras on professional level are all nikon from reviews etc But I am sure people disagree. at the end of the day it is finding a camera that works for you. and even if it is purely your budget that is holding you back then definately get value for money yes the name bumps the price up but at the range your have got I really cant see a nikon or canon completely outclassing the pentax.
 
true, very true, the only downfall of the K-r is that the image size is small compared to most if it was a 14MP camera then i can see it being more of a competitor for entry level photographers. but I'm not particularly fussed, 12.2MP is ridiculously high as it is XD

i've always been a lover of the underdogs what can i say...

but two brands i will never use are Kodak, or Vivitar!! (apart from Vivitar's tipods i have one and it's quite good.) i think so far that's the biggest learning curve.
 
yes well there are budget ranges you stay clear from vivitar are 1 of them and Kodak are really just mass producers aimed at more the buget market. They have good lower end cameras but yeah I would stay clear.

the mp really do not matter that much unless you really want to print out really large images especially at the level of camera you have making it a 24 mp camera for less than £500 means they have cut corners somewhere.
 
true, i made the mistake of owning both brands, one was generally cruddy, and the other didn't take any battery brand other than duracell disposable ones, meaning that it used to eat money up like mad.

doesn't the MP count for some image quality purposes as well, or is that just the general quality of the lens and the sensor?
 

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