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Color problems in photograph after SAVE AS jpeg?


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I had headshots done of myself recently and I was doing my own retouching. I'm satisfied with the image and went to SAVE AS jpeg and the colors in the jpeg looks way off. The red are more red.

So, I figure, save as Tiff. I did with jpg as compression. It just didn't look right. I'm also worried about printing. The images that were imported in to photoshop did not have color issues.

well, here are a side by side comparison of what I am talking about:2010-08-26_162033-1.jpg

Notice how the colors on the right are more saturated? That's my concern.

Thanks!
 
When you look at the new JPG in a viewer or with explorer the saturation looks wrong, is that correct?
Open this JPG in PS, does it look OK in PS?

If so I have the same problem and unfortunately no answer.
It doesn't seem to be every image either.

Let's figure this out, I thought it was just me.
Steve
 
In photoshop, you will want to go into Edit > Color Preferences > set your default to North American Pre Press 2. And leave everything checked. What I'm assuming happened is that the image in question was in a profiled space, and upon opening your current settings probably overwrote the color space and converted it into Swop or something else. Now when you open an image it will ask you if you would like to keep the embedded profile or do whatever, small hassle but you will at least be aware of what your color settings are doing to the image..
 
My Color Settings were custom.
Exactly the same as North American Prepress 2 but with the “Ask” check boxes at the bottom unchecked.
I changed the settings to North American Prepress 2 but that’s not where “My” problem seems to be, I don't know if this is the exact problem EugeneM is having

The settings are now set to North American Prepress 2, check the attached photo.
I did a quick web search for something that was over saturated and opened it in the ACDSee viewer on the left and PS on the right and did a screen dump.

You should be able to see that the image on the left is more saturated than the image in PS, on the right.

If I open the original JPG in Internet Explorer or any other viewer it looks the same as the image on the left, more saturated than when I view it in PS.
 

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In ACD go to file properties and see if it's reading the embedded profile. Im sure your jpeg viewer has Color Management properties as well. Make sure they are not trashing your color profile.. Check that the embedded profile in PS is same as ACD.. At any rate, I would expect photoshop to be managing the color properly.
 
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ACDSee is "reporting" the embedded profile is sRGB and I'm not aware of anyway to ignore or change it from doing that.

The issue isn’t specific to ACDSee.
I can open a JPG in Quicktime Viewer, Media Player, Paint., Internet Explorer, etc., etc., and it always looks the same.

When I open it in PS it’s less saturated.
If I save this image to a new file name with no editing, the new image is just as saturated as the original in any of the above viewers.

This is true in CS3, CS5, and Elements 7.

So the issue here is, is this and Adobe PS (all versions) issue or a Windows issue.
 
The problem is not with Adobe PS. The problem is color managing from platform to platform. Adobe PS is a properly color managed program. The problem lies within everything else NOT being color managed, not being color managed properly, or user error.

Color difference between sRGB images in Photoshop and Windows P and F Viewer - Photo.net Digital Darkroom Forum

If you really want to try and understand better read all the comments. It will probably still leave you confused but understand this is not something clear cut and easy to solve even with proper color managing equipment.
 
Thanks for the link tricky500.

I read it all and understood enough to realize there isn't a real solution.
PS uses the embedded profile and MS apps don't.
For it to look the same in PS as a MS viewer like IE, Fax viewer, etc. is to discard the embedded profile in PS.

So the answer is, there is no answer.
 
Lol. The last part is 100% correct. :) The best you can do is calibrate your monitor - not with microsofts brightness settings but an actual gretag program or something of the like and not embed profiles. The last part because every picture looks the same on a calibrated monitor as long as it does not have an embedded icc profile. Then your PS will match whatever program. But for someone who has an uncalibrated monitor viewing your photo the color will vary. You can account for your own color but you cannot guarantee it outside of your computer specifically..
 
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Interesting topic guys.

Does the color look the same for you in PS as other programs Steve if you don't embed a color profile?
 
The only way to get windows picture and fax viewer to exactly match Photoshop is to use your monitor's profile. But this creates a problem with everything outside of your computer and you aren't seeing the true color especially if you are using an uncalibrated monitor to begin with. I haven't actually done much work with monitor calibration @ my work so this topic is of interest to me.. There's a lot of info I'm missing :X
 
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Interesting topic guys.

Does the color look the same for you in PS as other programs Steve if you don't embed a color profile?
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You're not embedding a color profile, it's already there.

It looks the same in PS as it does in Windows viewers and apps if you don't use the existing embedded profile.

The embedded profile is always sRGB since the images I'm talking about are posted on the Internet in photo forums, etc.
When you view these images with Internet Explorer, or drop them on your desktop and view them with any basic Windows viewer you're looking at the image in a program that ignores (does not use) the embedded sRGB profile.

If you tell PS to ignore the embedded profile, Edit|Assign Profile|Don't Color Manage This Document, it looks exactly the same as it does in the MS apps and viewers.

Yes this was really interesting.
I learned a lot about something I never understood.
I don't recall if we heard from the OP past his original post, I hope I didn't hijack this string from the OP and that he/she found an answer too.
 
Hmm, so what does checking/unchecking this little guy do when you save a PSD? If you uncheck it will it strip the color profile from the image?

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HM, so what does checking/upchucking this little guy do when you save a PSD? If you uncheck it will it strip the color profile from the image?
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OK, but we're not talking about stripping the color profile from an image.

We're talking about the fact that PS reads and uses an embedded profile if it exists and viewers do not read and use that profile.
The result is the images look different.

Want the image to look the the same in PS and the viewers, have PS ignore the embedded profile.
 
This is an especially difficult problem for web designers, because web design work will be viewed on many different computers and monitors using several different browsers.

Most web browsers do not read color profiles and a lot of Windows software (as mentioned in this thread) does not have any built in color management either. In these cases they apply their default (and usually wrong) color information to images. the difference in some cases (for example when you are using Adobe RGB color profile in Photoshop) can be huge.

A lot of Mac applications DO read color profiles and manage color very well. Apple's Safari browser for example (for both Mac and Windows) does read ICC color profiles and automatically maps them to your monitors color space. This can get you into trouble if you are designing in Photoshop and testing in Safari because when you look at the work in a non-color managed browser it might look completely different.

Chrome does not read color profiles or have any color management, Opera does not read color profiles, and Internet Explorer is also non-color managed. Newer versions or Firefox can read color profiles but on older versions it is not turned on by default.

Without color management the color of your images is going to change from one computer to the next depending on the color space of the monitor being used. The best thing you can do is make sure you are always designing in sRGB color space, because that will probably be closest to the default that non-color managed browsers will apply to the image.

This all gets very technical, but the bottom line is that at the current time there's no way for you to know how colors will look on a different computer and it's something we just have to accept.

I think the trend is leaning towards future software all being able to read color profiles, but we are a long way from that.
 
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